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* Re: [Intel-gfx] Performance drop using deinterlace_vaapi on 5.19-rcX
       [not found]       ` <957926e6-2462-4c42-b57f-9cfbd9fe7024@lio96.de>
@ 2022-06-20 15:28         ` Christian König
  2022-06-20 17:28           ` Daniel Vetter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Christian König @ 2022-06-20 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Voegtle; +Cc: Daniel Vetter, Intel Graphics Development

Hi Thomas,

Am 20.06.22 um 16:31 schrieb Thomas Voegtle:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Christian König wrote:
>
>> Am 20.06.22 um 13:40 schrieb Thomas Voegtle:
>>>  On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Christian König wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>>  [moving vger to bcc]
>>>>
>>>>  mhm, sounds like something isn't running in parallel any more.
>>>>
>>>>  We usually don't test the multimedia engines for this but we do test
>>>>  gfx+compute, so I'm really wondering what goes wrong here.
>>>>
>>>>  Could you run some tests for me? Additional to that I'm going to 
>>>> raise
>>>>  that issue with our multimedia guys later today.
>>>
>>>  Yes, I can run some tests for you. Which tests?
>>
>> Try this as root:
>>
>> echo 1 > 
>> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/dma_fence/dma_fence_init/enable
>> echo 1 > 
>> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/dma_fence/dma_fence_signaled/enable
>> cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_pipe > trace.log
>>
>> Then start the encoding in another shell, after it completed cancel 
>> the cat with cntr+c and save the log file.
>>
>> Do this one with the old kernel and once with the new one.
>
>
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F32h.de%2Ftv%2F5.18.0-i5-trace.log.bz2&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C41a052960a4d4f7dd38e08da52c99097%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637913323382588469%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=xv8vLUuBq37sBFcGxdua%2FnNQ51BiN1USn30ehP8bys0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F32h.de%2Ftv%2F5.19.0-rc3-i5-trace.log.bz2&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C41a052960a4d4f7dd38e08da52c99097%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637913323382588469%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=xuBVrQMQ%2FDK3Gv1qN%2FntJ9NjXOZxD6XVkmDCWfG4K44%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
>
> I hope I have done this correctly.
> All necessary tracing things switched on?

Yeah, that looks like what I wanted to see.

>
> I want to add that this is a headless machine. No monitor connected.
>

I've just realized that you aren't even using any AMD GPU for 
transcoding, so I have no idea why removing the AMD specific workaround 
can cause a performance problem for i915.

It must be somehow related to i915 now adding some additional 
synchronization in between submissions.

Adding the Intel mailing list, maybe somebody has a better idea.

Regards,
Christian.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread

* Re: [Intel-gfx] Performance drop using deinterlace_vaapi on 5.19-rcX
  2022-06-20 15:28         ` [Intel-gfx] Performance drop using deinterlace_vaapi on 5.19-rcX Christian König
@ 2022-06-20 17:28           ` Daniel Vetter
  2022-06-22  7:00             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Vetter @ 2022-06-20 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian König; +Cc: Thomas Voegtle, Intel Graphics Development

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 17:28, Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Am 20.06.22 um 16:31 schrieb Thomas Voegtle:
> > On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Christian König wrote:
> >
> >> Am 20.06.22 um 13:40 schrieb Thomas Voegtle:
> >>>  On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Christian König wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>  Hi Thomas,
> >>>>
> >>>>  [moving vger to bcc]
> >>>>
> >>>>  mhm, sounds like something isn't running in parallel any more.
> >>>>
> >>>>  We usually don't test the multimedia engines for this but we do test
> >>>>  gfx+compute, so I'm really wondering what goes wrong here.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Could you run some tests for me? Additional to that I'm going to
> >>>> raise
> >>>>  that issue with our multimedia guys later today.
> >>>
> >>>  Yes, I can run some tests for you. Which tests?
> >>
> >> Try this as root:
> >>
> >> echo 1 >
> >> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/dma_fence/dma_fence_init/enable
> >> echo 1 >
> >> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/dma_fence/dma_fence_signaled/enable
> >> cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_pipe > trace.log
> >>
> >> Then start the encoding in another shell, after it completed cancel
> >> the cat with cntr+c and save the log file.
> >>
> >> Do this one with the old kernel and once with the new one.
> >
> >
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F32h.de%2Ftv%2F5.18.0-i5-trace.log.bz2&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C41a052960a4d4f7dd38e08da52c99097%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637913323382588469%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=xv8vLUuBq37sBFcGxdua%2FnNQ51BiN1USn30ehP8bys0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F32h.de%2Ftv%2F5.19.0-rc3-i5-trace.log.bz2&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C41a052960a4d4f7dd38e08da52c99097%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637913323382588469%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=xuBVrQMQ%2FDK3Gv1qN%2FntJ9NjXOZxD6XVkmDCWfG4K44%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >
> >
> > I hope I have done this correctly.
> > All necessary tracing things switched on?
>
> Yeah, that looks like what I wanted to see.
>
> >
> > I want to add that this is a headless machine. No monitor connected.
> >
>
> I've just realized that you aren't even using any AMD GPU for
> transcoding, so I have no idea why removing the AMD specific workaround
> can cause a performance problem for i915.
>
> It must be somehow related to i915 now adding some additional
> synchronization in between submissions.
>
> Adding the Intel mailing list, maybe somebody has a better idea.

Only thing I can spot is that we now pile up USAGE_WRITE fences, but
beforehand they got replaced. Also the deinterlace stuff means libva
uses render engine, so this kinda fits - without using the render
engine it's just a single engine, and hence you should never have
multiple write fences (not logically, but hsw is a ringbuffer and i915
doesn't have a ringbuffer scheduler, so it's all in-order anyway and
hence not possible to change something).

This would mean that i915 is doing something silly (well not obeying
the old dma_resv rules that any new exclusive fence must be a strict
superset of all currently attached fences), which it totally is doing
with the EXEC_OBJECT_ASYNC flag. But libva doesn't use that.

So tbh I have no idea, but maybe a quick hack that tosses any old
USAGE_WRITE fence like the old dma_resv_add_excl_fence did would sched
some light?
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread

* Re: [Intel-gfx] Performance drop using deinterlace_vaapi on 5.19-rcX
  2022-06-20 17:28           ` Daniel Vetter
@ 2022-06-22  7:00             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Tvrtko Ursulin @ 2022-06-22  7:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Vetter, Christian König
  Cc: Thomas Voegtle, Intel Graphics Development


On 20/06/2022 18:28, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 17:28, Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> Am 20.06.22 um 16:31 schrieb Thomas Voegtle:
>>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Christian König wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 20.06.22 um 13:40 schrieb Thomas Voegtle:
>>>>>   On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Christian König wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Hi Thomas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   [moving vger to bcc]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   mhm, sounds like something isn't running in parallel any more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   We usually don't test the multimedia engines for this but we do test
>>>>>>   gfx+compute, so I'm really wondering what goes wrong here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Could you run some tests for me? Additional to that I'm going to
>>>>>> raise
>>>>>>   that issue with our multimedia guys later today.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Yes, I can run some tests for you. Which tests?
>>>>
>>>> Try this as root:
>>>>
>>>> echo 1 >
>>>> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/dma_fence/dma_fence_init/enable
>>>> echo 1 >
>>>> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/dma_fence/dma_fence_signaled/enable
>>>> cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_pipe > trace.log
>>>>
>>>> Then start the encoding in another shell, after it completed cancel
>>>> the cat with cntr+c and save the log file.
>>>>
>>>> Do this one with the old kernel and once with the new one.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F32h.de%2Ftv%2F5.18.0-i5-trace.log.bz2&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C41a052960a4d4f7dd38e08da52c99097%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637913323382588469%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=xv8vLUuBq37sBFcGxdua%2FnNQ51BiN1USn30ehP8bys0%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F32h.de%2Ftv%2F5.19.0-rc3-i5-trace.log.bz2&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C41a052960a4d4f7dd38e08da52c99097%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637913323382588469%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=xuBVrQMQ%2FDK3Gv1qN%2FntJ9NjXOZxD6XVkmDCWfG4K44%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope I have done this correctly.
>>> All necessary tracing things switched on?
>>
>> Yeah, that looks like what I wanted to see.
>>
>>>
>>> I want to add that this is a headless machine. No monitor connected.
>>>
>>
>> I've just realized that you aren't even using any AMD GPU for
>> transcoding, so I have no idea why removing the AMD specific workaround
>> can cause a performance problem for i915.
>>
>> It must be somehow related to i915 now adding some additional
>> synchronization in between submissions.
>>
>> Adding the Intel mailing list, maybe somebody has a better idea.
> 
> Only thing I can spot is that we now pile up USAGE_WRITE fences, but
> beforehand they got replaced. Also the deinterlace stuff means libva
> uses render engine, so this kinda fits - without using the render
> engine it's just a single engine, and hence you should never have
> multiple write fences (not logically, but hsw is a ringbuffer and i915
> doesn't have a ringbuffer scheduler, so it's all in-order anyway and
> hence not possible to change something).
> 
> This would mean that i915 is doing something silly (well not obeying
> the old dma_resv rules that any new exclusive fence must be a strict
> superset of all currently attached fences), which it totally is doing
> with the EXEC_OBJECT_ASYNC flag. But libva doesn't use that.
> 
> So tbh I have no idea, but maybe a quick hack that tosses any old
> USAGE_WRITE fence like the old dma_resv_add_excl_fence did would sched
> some light?

I did not see the original email but having found it in the archives 
(https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/0249066a-2e95-c21d-d16a-fba08c633c0b@lio96.de/), 
~3.8x slowdown is pretty bad.

Thomas, could you please file a bug using 
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/wikis/How-to-file-i915-bugs 
for instructions please? It can get handled and prioritized from there.

Regards,

Tvrtko

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