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From: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/i915: rip out the HWSTAM missed irq workaround
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:09:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8662gkb96e.fsf@sumi.keithp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120109233952.GJ3723@phenom.ffwll.local>


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On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:39:52 +0100, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:

> I honestly don't trust my patch, so I'd like to give it as much validation
> as possible. Which means:
> - Shove it into -next and beat on it there. We can ship current 3.3 with
>   Eric's workaround - it's not great but at least this works.

Actually, sticking your patch in as a fix for 3.3 before RC1 means we'll
get loads more testing as more people test the RCs than will ever touch
drm-intel-next. Dave Airlie might have an opinion on whether that's
reasonable at this stage or not.

> - Enable the voodoo and revert the HWSTAM w/a also on snb - there are
>   orders more snb machines in the wild than pre-production ivbs. I.e. this
>   hopefully greatly increases our changes to find out whether the voodoo
>   really works or if it is only pretty decent, but not perfect ducttape.

I suspect that the hardware is different enough between IVB and SNB that
SNB testing won't tell us all that much though. And, we have a working
SNB driver right now, with the HWSTAM work-around in place. I'd be
perfectly happy to use HWSTAM on SNB forever and use the forcewake
voodoo only on IVB.

Yeah, having the voodoo run on SNB would get a lot more testing, but
it's not going to increase our confidence on how well it works on IVB,
which is the only place it is actually needed.

> - See what happens and act accordingly (maybe reinstate the HWSTAM w/a if
>   it's required). If things really work out when this hits mainline,
>   backport the voodoo patch, leaving the HWSTAM in place for older
>   kernels.

So, the "nice" thing about the two IVB work-arounds is that they can
co-exist in the kernel perfectly happily. We know that your voodoo
serves to keep the chip awake for a tiny interval after it has finished
drawing (essentially the time from the end of work to the interrupt ack
and forcewake disable), so it's not a significant additional power
drain.

We could leave the code for spinning in place and simply control that
with a module parameter. That would allow us to disable it now, and if
we find problems (or are particularly paranoid) we could disable it
before 3.3 ships with a 1-line patch.

> Yep, I'm officially paranoid about this ;-) rc6, forcewake and friends
> have simply blown up too often in unpredictable ways ...

We love our fancy hardware. The power savings brought about by rc6 are
impressive though; I only wish it didn't take so much software
support...

-- 
keith.packard@intel.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-10  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-04 16:52 [PATCH] drm/i915: paper over missed irq issues with force wake vodoo Daniel Vetter
2012-01-04 18:15 ` Eugeni Dodonov
2012-01-04 18:40   ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-05  2:27     ` Keith Packard
2012-01-05 11:13       ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-05 11:23         ` Eugeni Dodonov
2012-01-05 22:11     ` [PATCH] drm/i915: rip out the HWSTAM missed irq workaround Daniel Vetter
2012-01-05 23:29       ` Ben Widawsky
2012-01-06 16:03       ` Eugeni Dodonov
2012-01-09 22:00       ` Keith Packard
2012-01-09 23:39         ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-10  2:09           ` Keith Packard [this message]
2012-01-10  7:58             ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-18  0:24       ` Ben Widawsky
2012-01-10 12:20     ` [PATCH] drm/i915: paper over missed irq issues with force wake vodoo Daniel Vetter
2012-01-11  0:51       ` Eric Anholt
2012-01-11  4:44         ` Keith Packard
2012-01-11  6:21           ` Ben Widawsky
2012-01-11  9:59           ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-11  5:41       ` Kenneth Graunke
2012-01-13 16:42     ` Keith Packard
2012-01-13 23:52       ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-13 23:55         ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-14  0:11         ` Keith Packard
2012-01-14  0:31           ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-14  0:50             ` Keith Packard
2012-01-14 12:12               ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-15  6:35                 ` Keith Packard
2012-01-15 15:03                   ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-16  0:06                     ` Keith Packard
2012-01-05 23:29 ` Ben Widawsky
2012-01-08 13:01   ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09  5:09   ` Keith Packard
2012-01-06 20:56 ` Keith Packard

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