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From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] drm/dp: Add a way to init/add a connector in separate steps
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 17:44:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bjxu5btw.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241202-accurate-jolly-hornet-8c2ca0@houat>

On Mon, 02 Dec 2024, Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 02:07:36PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Dec 2024, Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > It's not about whether we have a problem or not: you introduce new
>> > framework functions, you need to have kunit tests to check their
>> > behaviour.
>> 
>> I don't fundamentally disagree with that goal,
>
> You don't really have to agree. You asked for my review, you have it.
>
>> but it does seem like a pretty drastic policy change. I don't recall a
>> discussion where we made that decision, nor can I find any
>> documentation stating this. Or what exactly the requirement is; it's
>> totally unclear to me.
>
> There isn't, because there's no such policy, even though it's definitely
> something I'd like. This situation is different though:
> drm_connector_init is already a function that is being tested. It seems
> natural to not dilute testing when adding new variant, disregarding what
> the policy of the rest of the framework is.

"You do X, you need do have Y" coming from a maintainer sure sounded
like hard rules. I was surprised.

>> It's super tempting for people to just get their jobs done. If doing
>> the right thing adds yet another hurdle, we may see more stuff being
>> added in drivers instead of drm core.
>
> I really enjoy hidden threats.

None were implied. That's your interpretation of what I honestly think
is a plausible outcome. I try to push people towards contributing to drm
core instead of drivers, and it's not always easy as it is. It's just a
guess, but I'll bet the majority of drm contributors have never run
kunit tests themselves.

> And it's not like i915 is a great example there.

Sincerely, is this the level of discussion we really want to have?


BR,
Jani.


-- 
Jani Nikula, Intel

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-02 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-26 16:18 [PATCH v2 0/4] drm/dp: Expose only a properly inited connector Imre Deak
2024-11-26 16:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] drm/dp: Add a way to init/add a connector in separate steps Imre Deak
2024-11-29 14:26   ` Imre Deak
2024-11-29 14:46     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-11-29 15:58       ` Jani Nikula
2024-12-02 10:45         ` Maxime Ripard
2024-11-29 16:12       ` Imre Deak
2024-12-02 10:48         ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-02 12:07           ` Jani Nikula
2024-12-02 13:24             ` Imre Deak
2024-12-02 15:07               ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-02 15:31                 ` Imre Deak
2024-12-02 15:06             ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-02 15:44               ` Jani Nikula [this message]
2024-12-03  9:36                 ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-03 11:17                   ` Jani Nikula
2024-12-02 16:35   ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-02 20:07     ` Imre Deak
2024-12-06 20:48       ` Simona Vetter
2024-11-26 16:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] drm/i915/dp_mst: Expose a connector to kernel users after it's properly initialized Imre Deak
2024-11-26 16:18 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] drm/i915/dp_mst: Fix error handling while adding a connector Imre Deak
2024-11-26 16:18 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] drm/i915/dp_mst: Use intel_connector vs. drm_connector pointer in intel_dp_mst.c Imre Deak
2024-11-26 16:51 ` ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: warning for drm/dp: Expose only a properly inited connector Patchwork
2024-11-26 17:05 ` ✓ i915.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2024-11-26 18:30 ` ✗ i915.CI.Full: failure " Patchwork

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