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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Mika Westerberg" <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 03/15] pwm: lpss: Add range limit check for the base_unit register value
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 13:07:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90769dc0-3174-195b-34e0-ef4bb9d9b982@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200608035023.GZ2428291@smile.fi.intel.com>

Hi,

On 6/8/20 5:50 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 08:18:28PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> When the user requests a high enough period ns value, then the
>> calculations in pwm_lpss_prepare() might result in a base_unit value of 0.
>>
>> But according to the data-sheet the way the PWM controller works is that
>> each input clock-cycle the base_unit gets added to a N bit counter and
>> that counter overflowing determines the PWM output frequency. Adding 0
>> to the counter is a no-op. The data-sheet even explicitly states that
>> writing 0 to the base_unit bits will result in the PWM outputting a
>> continuous 0 signal.
> 
> So, and why it's a problem?

Lets sya the user requests a PWM output frequency of 100Hz on Cherry Trail
which has a 19200000 Hz clock this will result in 100 * 65536 / 19200000 =
0.3 -> 0 as base-unit value. So instead of getting 100 Hz the user will
now get a pin which is always outputting low.

OTOH if we clamp to 1 as lowest value, the user will get 192000000 / 65536
= 292 Hz as output frequency which is as close to the requested value as
we can get while actually still working as a PWM controller.

>> base_unit values > (base_unit_range / 256), or iow base_unit values using
>> the 8 most significant bits, cause loss of resolution of the duty-cycle.
>> E.g. assuming a base_unit_range of 65536 steps, then a base_unit value of
>> 768 (256 * 3), limits the duty-cycle resolution to 65536 / 768 = 85 steps.
>> Clamp the max base_unit value to base_unit_range / 32 to ensure a
>> duty-cycle resolution of at least 32 steps. This limits the maximum
>> output frequency to 600 KHz / 780 KHz depending on the base clock.
> 
> This part I don't understand. Why we limiting base unit? I seems like a
> deliberate regression.

The way the PWM controller works is that the base-unit gets added to
say a 16 bit (on CHT) counter each input clock and then the highest 8
bits of that counter get compared to the value programmed into the
ON_TIME_DIV bits.

Lets say we do not clamp and allow any value and lets say the user
selects an output frequency of half the input clock, so base-unit
value is 32768, then the counter will only have 2 values:
0 and 32768 after that it will wrap around again. So any on time-div
value < 128 will result in the output being always high and any
value > 128 will result in the output being high/low 50% of the time
and a value of 255 will make the output always low.

So in essence we now only have 3 duty cycle levels, which seems like
a bad idea to me / not what a pwm controller is supposed to do.

So I decided to put a cut of at having at least 32 steps.

The mean reason I wrote this patch though is to avoid a base-unit
value of 0 which really results in a completely non working PWM
output. I personally believe clamping on the high side is a good
idea too. But if you are against that I can drop that part.

Note that the clamping on the high side will not affect the
primary user of the LPSS-pwm driver which is the i915 backlight
code, that never asks for such high frequencies.  But it could
help to avoid an user shooting themselves in the foot when using
the PWM on a dev board through the sysfs interface.

Regards,

Hans


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-08 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-07 18:18 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 00/15] pwm/i915: Convert pwm-crc and i915 driver's PWM code to use the atomic PWM API Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 01/15] ACPI / LPSS: Resume Cherry Trail PWM controller in no-irq phase Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 02/15] ACPI / LPSS: Save Cherry Trail PWM ctx registers only once (at activation) Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 03/15] pwm: lpss: Add range limit check for the base_unit register value Hans de Goede
2020-06-08  3:50   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-08 11:07     ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2020-06-08 12:51       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-08 14:19         ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-11 22:12       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-06-12 11:57         ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-13 20:50           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 04/15] pwm: lpss: Fix off by one error in base_unit math in pwm_lpss_prepare() Hans de Goede
2020-06-08  3:55   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-08 11:13     ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 12:55       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 05/15] pwm: lpss: Set SW_UPDATE bit when enabling the PWM Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 06/15] pwm: crc: Fix period / duty_cycle times being off by a factor of 256 Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 11:29   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-09 13:45     ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 07/15] pwm: crc: Fix off-by-one error in the clock-divider calculations Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 08/15] pwm: crc: Fix period changes not having any effect Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 09/15] pwm: crc: Enable/disable PWM output on enable/disable Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 11:31   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-11 22:20   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-06-12 16:59     ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 10/15] pwm: crc: Implement apply() method to support the new atomic PWM API Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 11:32   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-09 13:44     ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 13:50       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 11/15] pwm: crc: Implement get_state() method Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 11:32   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-11 21:37   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-06-12 17:00     ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 12/15] drm/i915: panel: Add get_vbt_pwm_freq() helper Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 13/15] drm/i915: panel: Honor the VBT PWM frequency for devs with an external PWM controller Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 14/15] drm/i915: panel: Honor the VBT PWM min setting " Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:18 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 15/15] drm/i915: panel: Use atomic PWM API " Hans de Goede
2020-06-07 18:28 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for pwm/i915: Convert pwm-crc and i915 driver's PWM code to use the atomic PWM API Patchwork
2020-06-07 18:48 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2020-06-07 19:44 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: " Patchwork

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