From: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 00/20] Initial Xe driver submission
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 21:27:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y7dA3cfSfKDuGkXZ@DUT025-TGLU.fm.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd0e2491-92d4-58df-628b-985768472157@linux.intel.com>
On Tue, Jan 03, 2023 at 12:21:08PM +0000, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>
> On 22/12/2022 22:21, Matthew Brost wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is a submission for Xe, a new driver for Intel GPUs that supports both
> > integrated and discrete platforms starting with Tiger Lake (first platform with
> > Intel Xe Architecture). The intention of this new driver is to have a fresh base
> > to work from that is unencumbered by older platforms, whilst also taking the
> > opportunity to rearchitect our driver to increase sharing across the drm
> > subsystem, both leveraging and allowing us to contribute more towards other
> > shared components like TTM and drm/scheduler. The memory model is based on VM
> > bind which is similar to the i915 implementation. Likewise the execbuf
> > implementation for Xe is very similar to execbuf3 in the i915 [1].
> >
> > The code is at a stage where it is already functional and has experimental
> > support for multiple platforms starting from Tiger Lake, with initial support
> > implemented in Mesa (for Iris and Anv, our OpenGL and Vulkan drivers), as well
> > as in NEO (for OpenCL and Level0). A Mesa MR has been posted [2] and NEO
> > implementation will be released publicly early next year. We also have a suite
> > of IGTs for XE that will appear on the IGT list shortly.
> >
> > It has been built with the assumption of supporting multiple architectures from
> > the get-go, right now with tests running both on X86 and ARM hosts. And we
> > intend to continue working on it and improving on it as part of the kernel
> > community upstream.
> >
> > The new Xe driver leverages a lot from i915 and work on i915 continues as we
> > ready Xe for production throughout 2023.
> >
> > As for display, the intent is to share the display code with the i915 driver so
> > that there is maximum reuse there. Currently this is being done by compiling the
> > display code twice, but alternatives to that are under consideration and we want
> > to have more discussion on what the best final solution will look like over the
> > next few months. Right now, work is ongoing in refactoring the display codebase
> > to remove as much as possible any unnecessary dependencies on i915 specific data
> > structures there..
> >
> > We currently have 2 submission backends, execlists and GuC. The execlist is
> > meant mostly for testing and is not fully functional while GuC backend is fully
> > functional. As with the i915 and GuC submission, in Xe the GuC firmware is
> > required and should be placed in /lib/firmware/xe.
>
> What is the plan going forward for the execlists backend? I think it would
> be preferable to not upstream something semi-functional and so to carry
> technical debt in the brand new code base, from the very start. If it is for
> Tigerlake, which is the starting platform for Xe, could it be made GuC only
> Tigerlake for instance?
>
A little background here. In the original PoC written by Jason and Dave,
the execlist backend was the only one present and it was in semi-working
state. As soon as myself and a few others started working on Xe we went
full in a on the GuC backend. We left the execlist backend basically in
the state it was in. We left it in place for 2 reasons.
1. Having 2 backends from the start ensured we layered our code
correctly. The layer was a complete disaster in the i915 so we really
wanted to avoid that.
2. The thought was it might be needed for early product bring up one
day.
As I think about this a bit more, we likely just delete execlist backend
before merging this upstream and perhaps just carry 1 large patch
internally with this implementation that we can use as needed. Final
decession TDB though.
Matt
> Regards,
>
> Tvrtko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-05 21:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-22 22:21 [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 00/20] Initial Xe driver submission Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 01/20] drm/suballoc: Introduce a generic suballocation manager Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 02/20] drm/amd: Convert amdgpu to use suballocation helper Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 03/20] drm/radeon: Use the drm suballocation manager implementation Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 04/20] drm/sched: Convert drm scheduler to use a work queue rather than kthread Matthew Brost
2022-12-23 17:42 ` Rob Clark
2022-12-28 22:21 ` Matthew Brost
2022-12-30 10:20 ` Boris Brezillon
2022-12-30 11:55 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-02 7:30 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-03 13:02 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-03 14:21 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-05 21:43 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-06 23:52 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-09 13:46 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-09 17:27 ` Jason Ekstrand
2023-01-10 11:28 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-10 12:19 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-10 15:55 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-10 16:50 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-10 19:01 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-11 9:17 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-11 18:07 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-11 18:52 ` John Harrison
2023-01-11 18:55 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-10 14:08 ` Jason Ekstrand
2023-01-11 8:50 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-11 19:40 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-12 18:43 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-11 22:18 ` Jason Ekstrand
2023-01-11 22:31 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-11 22:56 ` Jason Ekstrand
2023-01-13 0:39 ` John Harrison
2023-01-18 3:06 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-10 16:39 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-11 1:13 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-11 9:09 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-11 17:52 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-12 18:21 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-05 19:40 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-09 15:45 ` Jason Ekstrand
2023-01-09 17:17 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-09 20:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-10 8:46 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-11 21:47 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-12 9:10 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-12 9:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-12 10:11 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-12 10:25 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-12 10:42 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-12 12:08 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-12 15:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-12 16:48 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-12 10:30 ` Boris Brezillon
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 05/20] drm/sched: Add generic scheduler message interface Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 06/20] drm/sched: Start run wq before TDR in drm_sched_start Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 07/20] drm/sched: Submit job before starting TDR Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 08/20] drm/sched: Add helper to set TDR timeout Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 09/20] drm: Add a gpu page-table walker helper Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 10/20] drm/ttm: Don't print error message if eviction was interrupted Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 11/20] drm/i915: Remove gem and overlay frontbuffer tracking Matthew Brost
2022-12-23 11:13 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 12/20] drm/i915/display: Neuter frontbuffer tracking harder Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 13/20] drm/i915/display: Add more macros to remove all direct calls to uncore Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 14/20] drm/i915/display: Remove all uncore mmio accesses in favor of intel_de Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 15/20] drm/i915: Rename find_section to find_bdb_section Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 16/20] drm/i915/regs: Set DISPLAY_MMIO_BASE to 0 for xe Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 17/20] drm/i915/display: Fix a use-after-free when intel_edp_init_connector fails Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 18/20] drm/i915/display: Remaining changes to make xe compile Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 19/20] sound/hda: Allow XE as i915 replacement for sound Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 20/20] mei/hdcp: Also enable for XE Matthew Brost
2022-12-22 22:41 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for Initial Xe driver submission Patchwork
2023-01-02 8:14 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC PATCH 00/20] " Thomas Zimmermann
2023-01-02 11:42 ` Jani Nikula
2023-01-03 13:56 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-03 14:41 ` Alyssa Rosenzweig
2023-01-03 12:21 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-05 21:27 ` Matthew Brost [this message]
2023-01-12 9:54 ` Lucas De Marchi
2023-01-12 17:10 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-17 16:40 ` Jason Ekstrand
2023-01-10 12:33 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-17 16:12 ` Jason Ekstrand
2023-02-17 20:51 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-02-27 12:46 ` Oded Gabbay
2023-03-01 23:00 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2023-03-09 15:10 ` Daniel Vetter
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