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From: Kuba Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev, corbet@lwn.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	jesse.brandeburg@intel.com,
	Arkadiusz Kubalewski <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>,
	anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v3 2/5] dpll: spec: add support for pin-dpll signal phase offset/adjust
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 12:44:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231006124457.26417f37@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZSA7cEEc5nKl07/z@nanopsycho>

On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 18:53:04 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Fri, Oct 06, 2023 at 04:55:36PM CEST, kuba@kernel.org wrote:
> >> I'm confused. Didn't you say you'll remove this? If not, my question
> >> from v1 still stands.  
> >
> >Perhaps we should dis-allow setting version in non-genetlink-legacy
> >specs? I thought it may be a useful thing to someone, at some point,
> >but so far the scoreboard is: legit uses: 0, confused uses: 1 :S
> >
> >Thoughts?  
> 
> I don't know what the meaning of version is. I just never saw that being
> touched. Is there any semantics documented for it?
> 
> Kuba, any opinion?

/me switches the first name in From :P

I think it basically predates the op / policy introspection,
and allows people to break backward compat.

drop_monitor bumped to 2 in 2009:

  683703a26e46 ("drop_monitor: Update netlink protocol to include
netlink attribute header in alert message")

which breaks backward compat.

genetlink ctrl went to 2 in 2006:

  334c29a64507 ("[GENETLINK]: Move command capabilities to flags.")

which moves some info around in attrs, also breaks backward compat
if someone depended on the old placement.

ovs did it in 2013:

  44da5ae5fbea ("openvswitch: Drop user features if old user space
attempted to create datapath")

again, breaks backwards compat.


I guess it may still make one day to bump the version for some proto
which has very tight control over the user space. But it hasn't
happened for 10 years.
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-06 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-06 11:40 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v3 0/5] dpll: add phase-offset and phase-adjust Arkadiusz Kubalewski
2023-10-06 11:40 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v3 1/5] dpll: docs: add support for pin signal phase offset/adjust Arkadiusz Kubalewski
2023-10-06 11:40 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v3 2/5] dpll: spec: add support for pin-dpll " Arkadiusz Kubalewski
2023-10-06 12:30   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-06 14:55     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-06 16:53       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-06 19:44         ` Kuba Kicinski [this message]
2023-10-07 10:29           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-09 15:22             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-09 22:55     ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-10-06 11:40 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v3 3/5] dpll: netlink/core: " Arkadiusz Kubalewski
2023-10-06 12:38   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-09 22:49     ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-10-06 11:41 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v3 4/5] ice: dpll: implement phase related callbacks Arkadiusz Kubalewski
2023-10-06 12:33   ` Simon Horman
2023-10-06 12:41     ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-06 11:41 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next v3 5/5] dpll: netlink/core: change pin frequency set behavior Arkadiusz Kubalewski
2023-10-06 12:35   ` Jiri Pirko

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