From: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] procfs {tid,tgid,attr}_allowed mount options
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:22:46 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110810112246.GA30492@openwall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110810100227.GA3507@albatros>
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 02:02:27PM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> One question: do we really need gid= option? The only user I know is
> identd, but does anybody use it nowadays?
identd is mostly obsolete, but I am using gid= with 2.4.x-ow kernels to
let a group of sysadmins see all users' processes and network
connections without having to use su. In fact, I use it on my very own
computers - again, to let my main desktop user account see everything,
while not letting my pseudo-user accounts (that I use for things such as
a web browser) also see everything (they're not in group proc).
> With gid= I see 2 drawbacks:
>
> 1) Code becomes worse because of additional permission checks.
>
> 2) From the upstream's point of view it is very limited and unextendable
> feature.
This feature is precisely what I needed and used for over a decade.
I never needed more flexibility. Maybe this says something.
> So, I'd go further without gid=, at least for the beginning.
I don't know what works best for upstream acceptance in the beginning,
but I definitely want this feature to get in, and it is a must for Owl.
Thanks,
Alexander
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-10 11:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20110603191153.GB514@openwall.com>
2011-06-04 5:47 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: procfs mount options Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-04 13:20 ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-06-04 20:09 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-04 20:59 ` Solar Designer
2011-06-05 18:24 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC v1] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 19:26 ` Solar Designer
2011-06-05 19:47 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 20:10 ` Solar Designer
2011-06-06 18:08 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-06 18:33 ` Solar Designer
2011-06-08 17:23 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-08 17:43 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-12 2:39 ` Solar Designer
2011-07-24 18:55 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
[not found] ` <20110724185036.GC3510@albatros>
2011-07-26 14:50 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] procfs {tid,tgid,attr}_allowed " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-04 11:23 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 10:02 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 11:22 ` Solar Designer [this message]
2011-08-10 11:25 ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-08-10 12:04 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 13:34 ` Solar Designer
2011-08-12 18:14 ` Simon Marechal
2011-06-06 19:20 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC v1] procfs " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 19:17 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 19:40 ` Solar Designer
2011-06-05 19:53 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 18:36 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [owl-dev] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 18:47 ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
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