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From: Simon Marechal <simon@banquise.net>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] procfs {tid,tgid,attr}_allowed mount options
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:14:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E456DA2.5080802@banquise.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110810133409.GA31342@openwall.com>

Le 10/08/2011 15:34, Solar Designer a écrit :
> Perhaps run this by LKML as RFC and see what they think?  And be willing
> to revert to your old approach, with more hard-coding, now that you have
> this arguably overly complicated alternative.  Maybe it will convince
> Andrew Morton that something simpler and less flexible would be better.

Just my opinion, but the gid option is simple and to the point. More
complex solution will likely :
* not be used at all
* not be relevant to people with very specific needs anyway
* introduce bugs and/or vulnerabilities, either from the code or from
misconfigurations

Point #2 is important. Very specific needs should not be addressed in
this specific patch, it should be configured in something with a global
scope, such as a LSM.

I believe having effective security systems enabled by default is more
important than having generalistic and configurable systems nobody care
about. For example, being able to let a process choose the set of system
calls it should use is more useful to me than having SELinux loaded.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-12 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110603191153.GB514@openwall.com>
2011-06-04  5:47 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: procfs mount options Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-04 13:20   ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-06-04 20:09     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-04 20:59       ` Solar Designer
2011-06-05 18:24         ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC v1] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 19:26           ` Solar Designer
2011-06-05 19:47             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 20:10               ` Solar Designer
2011-06-06 18:08                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-06 18:33                   ` Solar Designer
2011-06-08 17:23                     ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-08 17:43                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-12  2:39                       ` Solar Designer
2011-07-24 18:55                         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
     [not found]                         ` <20110724185036.GC3510@albatros>
2011-07-26 14:50                           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29 17:47                             ` [kernel-hardening] procfs {tid,tgid,attr}_allowed " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-04 11:23                               ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 10:02                                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 11:22                                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-08-10 11:25                                 ` Solar Designer
2011-08-10 12:04                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 13:34                                     ` Solar Designer
2011-08-12 18:14                                       ` Simon Marechal [this message]
2011-06-06 19:20                 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC v1] procfs " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 19:17         ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 19:40           ` Solar Designer
2011-06-05 19:53             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 18:36 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [owl-dev] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-05 18:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer

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