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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Time to call it quits for the maintainer summit?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2026 10:28:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v796o6ol.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e5bde7b3a9093fa4a9b27f47a3bea9f8c5a6101f@intel.com>

On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 11:38:08 +0200,
Jani Nikula wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 06:33:05AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> >
> >> So I remember some of the problem, if you cherry-pick with -x the
> >> complaint was we had commits in -fixes with a cherry-pick commit id
> >> that wasn't in Linus' tree at that time.
> >
> >> It would of course later materialise in Linus' tree when the next
> >> merge window occurred since we don't rebase, but this either broke
> >> people's brains or scripts badly enough we got push back on it.
> >
> >> I think we should definitely do -x on all cherry-picks and I'll push
> >> to make sure we start doing it again.
> >
> > That'd be helpful, thanks -  I guess you're going to annoy someone
> > either way unfortunately but at least the commit not in mainline issue
> > would be transient.
> 
> We use the drm subsystem maintainer tool for cherry-picks, and it uses
> the -x option.
> 
> If you have any suggestions for helpful but non-intrusive additional
> annotations on cherry-picked commits, it should be easy enough to update
> the tool. And perhaps the annotation could be more widely adopted as
> well. It's not like nobody else ever cherry-picks, we just do it
> more. The annotation could still be the same.

The cherry-pick -x option helps a lot indeed, that's fine, per se.

However, the oddity is that the original commit comes to the upstream
a few weeks later again while the cherry-pick commit got already
merged earlier.  And, of course, the original commit has no notion
showing this is a dup.

So, a single direction cherry-pick solution doesn't suffice, and IMO,
we need to have some reverse-mapping of the aliases.  This could be
some external content or some other way.
(I could think of git-notes, but people won't agree, judging from the
historical development and the implementation of git-notes.)


thanks,

Takashi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-19  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-06 15:34 [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Time to call it quits for the maintainer summit? James Bottomley
2026-08-06 23:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-07 13:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-08-07 14:53     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-07 16:33     ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 17:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-08-07 19:03     ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 19:51     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-07 20:12       ` Shuah Khan
2026-08-09  1:51     ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-09 18:47       ` Randy Dunlap
2026-08-09 19:04       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-08-09 21:09         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10  8:14           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-10 13:20             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10 20:35               ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-10 21:05                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-11  0:14                 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18 13:09                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-18 14:02                     ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18 14:21                       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 15:32                         ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-18 17:46                           ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18 18:18                             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 14:51                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 14:52                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 16:45                     ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18 17:00                       ` James Bottomley
2026-08-18 17:25                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-09 21:56         ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-10  1:26           ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-10  2:40             ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-10  8:08             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-10 14:56               ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-10 15:49                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-09 18:39     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-09 18:42       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-09 22:10       ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-10  7:26         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-10 13:11           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10 13:32             ` James Bottomley
2026-08-10 14:24               ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10 15:23                 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-10 15:52                   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-08-11  3:24                     ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-11  5:29                       ` Randy Dunlap
2026-08-11  6:53                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-08-11 13:29                       ` Mark Brown
2026-08-10 22:47                   ` Mark Brown
2026-08-11  3:29                   ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-11  7:12                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-08-11  8:16                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-08-11 19:54                       ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-08-11 23:10                         ` Mark Brown
2026-08-12 20:33                           ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-13 11:48                             ` Mark Brown
2026-08-18  9:38                               ` Jani Nikula
2026-08-18 16:50                                 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-19  8:28                                 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2026-08-19 16:44                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-08-11 14:26                     ` Mark Brown
2026-08-12  6:00                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-12  6:20                       ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-12  7:07                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-12  7:41                         ` Greg KH
2026-08-12  8:05                           ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-12 12:48                             ` Mark Brown
2026-08-10 21:30           ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-10 21:45             ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-11  8:22               ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-11  8:19             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-11  9:06               ` Jiri Kosina
2026-08-11  9:34                 ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-11 13:47                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10  7:42         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-08-10 15:07           ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-07 12:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 13:09   ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 13:28     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 20:15     ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-08-07 19:15 ` Chris Mason
2026-08-07 19:53   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-07 23:19 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-10 13:54   ` James Bottomley
2026-08-10 14:41     ` Steven Rostedt

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