Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Time to call it quits for the maintainer summit?

["Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 12:45:52PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 03:51:16PM -0500, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> > TBF I did make concrete process suggestions myself here:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/anntucHhrzF_b4sy@lucifer/
> >
> > And here (documentation):
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/anntucHhrzF_b4sy@lucifer/
>
> These are the same URL; cut and paste error?

Yup sorry I hadn't realised I'd made both points in the same email :)

>
> > And they got ignored, so I'm not _entirely_ sure that's what you
> > guys are after here :)
>
> The above message was essentially a suggestion to (a) improve the
> Maintainer Summit Call for Topics, and (b) document the full process,
> with all of the details in the Documentation directory.  The first is
> something that wasn't immediately actionable --- it's something to do
> for next year, and the second is one that we could do eventually, but
> to be honest, it didn't seem super urgent given that it's documented
> in this e-mail thread, and many of us have other things with shorter
> timelines (such as the merge window) that is keeping us busy.
>
> I'm sorry that you feel ignored, but we all have tons and tons on our
> things screaming for our attention.

I mean honestly that isn't very convincing - the entire thread was
low-priority and we're all very very busy.

So I'll eat my hat if either of those suggestions ever actually get
actioned :) [or you can choose a suitable actually edible alternative if
you hold me to this ;)]

It's all rather embelmatic of the MS as a whole - appearance of community
but structurally not that. And what complicate it is that it probably _has_
to be that way for things to be functional, as discussed ad infinitum in
these threads.

I do still feel that we should just be honest about that (that's what my
suggestions were about), but you know, hat, fork :)

>
> Cheers,
>
> 						- Ted

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Cheers, Lorenzo