From: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
nik.borisov@suse.com, kas@kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
xiaoyao.li@intel.com, chao.gao@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 07:54:19 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59626371-b9f2-4a8c-9c3f-ad7104b21dc0@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32b51faabf60f6e87d9fdebbf2c3fe5a45fbff1c.camel@gmail.com>
On 9/9/2026 4:30 AM, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> **Disclaimer**: I am new to KVM and TDX, still learning, let me know if
> some of my comments are off.
>
> It took me several days digging through docs and code to understand what is
> going on here,
Thanks!
[...]
>
> CPUID_CONFIG is different: it lets userspace set CPUID leaf values
> directly (but not for any CPUID, only for pieces of it the TDX module
> allows, and KVM enumerates them via the KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES ioctl).
>
> That is the problematic part. KVM does not check its contents, beyond a
> denylist that only filters out TSX and WAITPKG features. Everything
> else is allowed.
>
> So your patch-set basically kicks out the current denylist mechanism
> and replaces it with an allowlist of directly configurable CPUID leaves
> and bits.
>
[...]
>
> Did I understand your work correctly?
Yes, you understand it correctly.
>
>> Expected host state clobbering behavior for TDX
>> ===============================================
>> We also want to call for discussions about the expected host state
>> clobbering behavior for TDX here for future features.
>>
>> For a normal VMX guest, VM entry/exit behavior for a given piece of CPU
>> state is architecturally defined: state is either switched by hardware via
>> VMCS host/guest fields, or left as the guest value on VM exit and managed
>> by KVM in software.
>>
>> For TDs, the host/guest transition goes through TDH.VP.ENTER, and what the
>> TDX module does with a given piece of host state is defined by the TDX
>> module ABI rather than by the x86 architecture.
>
> I think I found this contract: the TDH.VP.ENTER definition in the ABI
> spec, section "CPU State Preservation Following a Successful TD Entry
> and a TD Exit". It refers to a table that lists the MSRs whose value
> may not be preserved across TD entry and exit, with the condition for
> each, e.g.
>
> IA32_PL0_SSP Init(XFAM[11] | XFAM[12])
> IA32_UMWAIT_CONTROL Init(virt. CPUID(7,0).ECX[5])
>
> This is from an older version of the TDX ABI specification. I could not
> find 'msr_preservation.pdf' published. But I assume it is published.
You can find these tables from the "Intel TDX Module ABI Definitions" part on
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/tools/trust-domain-extensions/documentation.html
[...]
> So maybe the way to go is to just follow 'msr_preservation.pdf' and
> adjust the allowlist? I find this approach safe and acceptable.
>
Rick explained the long history:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/58c185c82658819454a9950f37c6424226a098bb.camel@intel.com/
The Denylist based solution is not a clean solution:
- It couples the feature enabling for normal VMs with TDX tightly.
- Each time a new feature is added in the denylist, it needs to be backported to old KVM versions
> Artem.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-08 23:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-27 3:18 [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:29 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 8:23 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 8:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 14:35 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 0:33 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-02 15:09 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:19 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-02 16:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 16:25 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-03 7:28 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-03 8:57 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 21:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-09 16:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-09 22:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-09 23:18 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-10 2:39 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-10 21:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-11 0:55 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 1:30 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-10 2:53 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-08 21:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] KVM: TDX: Report CORE_CAPABILITIES as configurable Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-02 17:43 ` Kishen Maloor
[not found] ` <d47c8cc6-242b-4ebf-89f2-0909abdaadd5@linux.intel.com>
2026-09-03 6:10 ` Kishen Maloor
2026-09-03 8:12 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] KVM: TDX: Filter configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 8:42 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-03 8:04 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-03 8:23 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] KVM: TDX: Validate userspace CPUID input for KVM_TDX_INIT_VM Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:24 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-27 7:25 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-08-27 19:33 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-28 3:19 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-28 16:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-31 5:01 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:42 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-01 10:21 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:09 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 16:21 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-09 1:46 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-01 17:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 10:29 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 13:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 13:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 13:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 14:21 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:26 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 9:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-09 0:04 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 20:30 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-08 22:31 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-09 6:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-09 8:48 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-09 11:20 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-10 2:54 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 23:54 ` Binbin Wu [this message]
2026-09-09 5:37 ` Binbin Wu
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