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From: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	nik.borisov@suse.com, kas@kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	xiaoyao.li@intel.com, chao.gao@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 07:54:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59626371-b9f2-4a8c-9c3f-ad7104b21dc0@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32b51faabf60f6e87d9fdebbf2c3fe5a45fbff1c.camel@gmail.com>

On 9/9/2026 4:30 AM, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> **Disclaimer**: I am new to KVM and TDX, still learning, let me know if
> some of my comments are off.
> 
> It took me several days digging through docs and code to understand what is
> going on here,

Thanks!

[...]

> 
> CPUID_CONFIG is different: it lets userspace set CPUID leaf values
> directly (but not for any CPUID, only for pieces of it the TDX module
> allows, and KVM enumerates them via the KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES ioctl).
> 
> That is the problematic part. KVM does not check its contents, beyond a
> denylist that only filters out TSX and WAITPKG features. Everything
> else is allowed.
> 
> So your patch-set basically kicks out the current denylist mechanism
> and replaces it with an allowlist of directly configurable CPUID leaves
> and bits.
> 

[...]

> 
> Did I understand your work correctly?

Yes, you understand it correctly.

> 
>> Expected host state clobbering behavior for TDX
>> ===============================================
>> We also want to call for discussions about the expected host state
>> clobbering behavior for TDX here for future features.
>>
>> For a normal VMX guest, VM entry/exit behavior for a given piece of CPU
>> state is architecturally defined: state is either switched by hardware via
>> VMCS host/guest fields, or left as the guest value on VM exit and managed
>> by KVM in software.
>>
>> For TDs, the host/guest transition goes through TDH.VP.ENTER, and what the
>> TDX module does with a given piece of host state is defined by the TDX
>> module ABI rather than by the x86 architecture.
> 
> I think I found this contract: the TDH.VP.ENTER definition in the ABI
> spec, section "CPU State Preservation Following a Successful TD Entry
> and a TD Exit". It refers to a table that lists the MSRs whose value
> may not be preserved across TD entry and exit, with the condition for
> each, e.g.
> 
>   IA32_PL0_SSP         Init(XFAM[11] | XFAM[12])
>   IA32_UMWAIT_CONTROL  Init(virt. CPUID(7,0).ECX[5])
> 
> This is from an older version of the TDX ABI specification. I could not
> find 'msr_preservation.pdf' published. But I assume it is published.

You can find these tables from the "Intel TDX Module ABI Definitions" part on
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/tools/trust-domain-extensions/documentation.html
 
[...]

> So maybe the way to go is to just follow 'msr_preservation.pdf' and
> adjust the allowlist? I find this approach safe and acceptable.
> 

Rick explained the long history:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/58c185c82658819454a9950f37c6424226a098bb.camel@intel.com/

The Denylist based solution is not a clean solution:
- It couples the feature enabling for normal VMs with TDX tightly.
- Each time a new feature is added in the denylist, it needs to be backported to old KVM versions


> Artem.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-08 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-27  3:18 [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-08-27  3:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM Binbin Wu
2026-09-01  6:29   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01  8:23     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01  8:27       ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 14:35   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02  0:33     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-02 15:09       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:19         ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-02 16:22           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 16:25             ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-03  7:28           ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-03  8:57             ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 21:13             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-09 16:39               ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-09 22:29                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-09 23:18                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-10  2:39                     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-10 21:29                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-11  0:55                         ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11  1:30                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-10  2:53                     ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-08 21:15         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-27  3:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] KVM: TDX: Report CORE_CAPABILITIES as configurable Binbin Wu
2026-09-01  6:45   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-02 17:43   ` Kishen Maloor
     [not found]     ` <d47c8cc6-242b-4ebf-89f2-0909abdaadd5@linux.intel.com>
2026-09-03  6:10       ` Kishen Maloor
2026-09-03  8:12         ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27  3:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] KVM: TDX: Filter configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-09-01  6:44   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01  8:42     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01  9:09       ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-03  8:04   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-03  8:23     ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27  3:18 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] KVM: TDX: Validate userspace CPUID input for KVM_TDX_INIT_VM Binbin Wu
2026-08-27  3:24   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-27  7:25     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01  6:47   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-08-27 19:33 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-28  3:19   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-28 16:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-31  5:01       ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01  9:42         ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-01 10:21           ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:09           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 16:21             ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-09  1:46             ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01  9:38     ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-01 17:41       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 10:29         ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 13:13           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 13:39             ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 13:53               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 14:21                 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:26             ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08  9:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-09  0:04   ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 20:30 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-08 22:31   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-09  6:52     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-09  8:48       ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-09 11:20         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-10  2:54           ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 23:54   ` Binbin Wu [this message]
2026-09-09  5:37     ` Binbin Wu

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