From: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
To: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/16] liveupdate: luo_file: Add internal APIs for file preservation
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 19:08:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <agth8vZh96TfEYl_@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agr6yoyYYq2QFxjL@google.com>
On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 11:40:58AM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 05:56:18PM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
>> From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
>>
>> The core liveupdate mechanism allows userspace to preserve file
>> descriptors. However, kernel subsystems often manage struct file
>> objects directly and need to participate in the preservation process
>> programmatically without relying solely on userspace interaction.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
>
>[..]
>
>> @@ -924,3 +931,65 @@ void liveupdate_unregister_file_handler(struct liveupdate_file_handler *fh)
>> luo_flb_unregister_all(fh);
>> list_del(&ACCESS_PRIVATE(fh, list));
>> }
>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(liveupdate_unregister_file_handler);
>> +
[snip]
>> +
>> +/**
>> + * liveupdate_get_file_incoming - Retrieves a preserved file for in-kernel use.
>> + * @s: The incoming liveupdate session (restored from the previous kernel).
>> + * @token: The unique token identifying the file to retrieve.
>> + * @filep: On success, this will be populated with a pointer to the retrieved
>> + * 'struct file'.
>> + *
>> + * Provides a kernel-internal API for other subsystems to retrieve their
>> + * preserved files after a live update. This function is a simple wrapper
>> + * around luo_retrieve_file(), allowing callers to find a file by its token.
>> + *
>> + * The caller receives a new reference to the file and must call fput() when it
>> + * is no longer needed. The file's lifetime is managed by LUO and any userspace
>> + * file descriptors. If the caller needs to hold a reference to the file beyond
>> + * the immediate scope, it must call get_file() itself.
>
>Thanks for re-wording this and I'm sorry for being a stickler here, I'm
>a bit concerned that the last part here might lead to reference leaks in
>downstream drivers.
>
>Looking at the underlying luo_retrieve_file() implementation [1], it
>explicitly calls get_file() before returning the pointer (both on the
>initial retrieve and on cached ones). This means the caller inherently
>receives a reference that they own & the caller is responsible for
>exactly one fput().
>
>However, that last part of the comment can be misunderstood as the caller
>doesn't hold a lasting reference unless they call get_file() themselves.
>This makes the reader assume that LUO is going to automatically reap
>that initial reference from them.
>
>If a driver author assumes LUO is going to reap it, they will follow that
>last sentence and call get_file() to stash the pointer safely. They might
>end up holding two references (thinking one of them will be reaped), and
>could ultimately leak the struct file when they only call fput() once
>during teardown.
>
>Should we just drop that last sentence to make the lifecycle contract
>unambiguous? (i.e., The caller gets a newly bumped reference, and they
>are responsible for exactly one fput() per call).
I think these are all valid points. I will remove the last sentences for
clarity.
>
>> + *
>> + * Context: It must be called with session mutex acquired of a restored session.
>> + * Return: 0 on success. Returns -ENOENT if no file with the matching token is
>> + * found, or any other negative errno on failure.
>> + */
>> +int liveupdate_get_file_incoming(struct liveupdate_session *s, u64 token,
>> + struct file **filep)
>> +{
>> + return luo_retrieve_file(luo_file_set_from_session_locked(s),
>> + token, filep);
>> +}
>
>Nit: Shouldn't we export both of these functions via EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL?
>Since, these new APIs are intended for kernel subsystems to participate
>programmatically, there could be IOMMU drivers (or others) that can be
>compiled as loadable modules. Thus we should export these APIs via
>EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(). If they aren't exported, any loadable module
>attempting to use them will compile successfully (due to the header), but
>will fail to load at runtime with an Unknown symbol error.
>
>IIUC, if a function isn't exported with EXPORT_SYMBOL, it remains hidden
>inside vmlinux, (i.e. it isn't in the kernel's global symbol table used
>during modprobe).
Agreed. Will Update this.
I think there are other LUO APIs that are not exported and can be used
by modules. Let me check those also.
>
>Thanks,
>Praan
>
>[1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v7.0-rc3/source/kernel/liveupdate/luo_file.c#L560
>
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-27 17:56 [PATCH v2 00/16] iommu: Add live update state preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] liveupdate: luo_file: Add internal APIs for file preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 11:40 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 19:08 ` Samiullah Khawaja [this message]
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] iommu: Implement IOMMU Live update FLB callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 21:45 ` David Matlack
2026-05-18 11:52 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 14:10 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-05-18 15:08 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 12:33 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:20 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 17:32 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:06 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] iommu: Implement IOMMU domain preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 22:08 ` David Matlack
2026-05-04 18:33 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 13:13 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:55 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 21:36 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] iommu: Implement device and IOMMU HW preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 22:42 ` David Matlack
2026-05-04 19:06 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 2:07 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 18:47 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 14:01 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:33 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 13:55 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:44 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] iommu/pages: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve/restore iommu pages Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 14:23 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:22 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] iommupt: Implement preserve/unpreserve/restore callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 2:55 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 18:40 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 13:15 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-19 17:14 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] iommu/vt-d: Implement device and iommu preserve/unpreserve ops Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 6:25 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-08 2:36 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 20:32 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 14:40 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-19 18:26 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] iommu: Add APIs to get iommu and device preserved state Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 15:52 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] iommu/vt-d: Restore IOMMU state and reclaimed domain ids Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 9:05 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 17:35 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 21:46 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] iommu: Restore and reattach preserved domains to devices Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 13:54 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 16:52 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] iommu/vt-d: preserve PASID table of preserved device Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-08 6:05 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-11 18:45 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-12 11:32 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-19 22:35 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] iommufd: Implement ioctl to mark HWPT for preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 23:05 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] iommufd: Persist iommu hardware pagetables for live update Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20 0:00 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] iommufd: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve a vfio cdev Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20 0:46 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] vfio/pci: Preserve the iommufd state of the " Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20 0:57 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] iommufd/selftest: Add test to verify iommufd preservation Samiullah Khawaja
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