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From: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
To: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	 Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	 Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	 Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	 Adithya Jayachandran <ajayachandra@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	 Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>,
	 Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>,
	 YiFei Zhu <zhuyifei@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/16] liveupdate: luo_file: Add internal APIs for file preservation
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 19:08:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agth8vZh96TfEYl_@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agr6yoyYYq2QFxjL@google.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 11:40:58AM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 05:56:18PM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
>> From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
>>
>> The core liveupdate mechanism allows userspace to preserve file
>> descriptors. However, kernel subsystems often manage struct file
>> objects directly and need to participate in the preservation process
>> programmatically without relying solely on userspace interaction.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
>
>[..]
>
>> @@ -924,3 +931,65 @@ void liveupdate_unregister_file_handler(struct liveupdate_file_handler *fh)
>>  	luo_flb_unregister_all(fh);
>>  	list_del(&ACCESS_PRIVATE(fh, list));
>>  }
>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(liveupdate_unregister_file_handler);
>> +

[snip]
>> +
>> +/**
>> + * liveupdate_get_file_incoming - Retrieves a preserved file for in-kernel use.
>> + * @s:      The incoming liveupdate session (restored from the previous kernel).
>> + * @token:  The unique token identifying the file to retrieve.
>> + * @filep:  On success, this will be populated with a pointer to the retrieved
>> + *          'struct file'.
>> + *
>> + * Provides a kernel-internal API for other subsystems to retrieve their
>> + * preserved files after a live update. This function is a simple wrapper
>> + * around luo_retrieve_file(), allowing callers to find a file by its token.
>> + *
>> + * The caller receives a new reference to the file and must call fput() when it
>> + * is no longer needed. The file's lifetime is managed by LUO and any userspace
>> + * file descriptors. If the caller needs to hold a reference to the file beyond
>> + * the immediate scope, it must call get_file() itself.
>
>Thanks for re-wording this and I'm sorry for being a stickler here, I'm
>a bit concerned that the last part here might lead to reference leaks in
>downstream drivers.
>
>Looking at the underlying luo_retrieve_file() implementation [1], it
>explicitly calls get_file() before returning the pointer (both on the
>initial retrieve and on cached ones). This means the caller inherently
>receives a reference that they own & the caller is responsible for
>exactly one fput().
>
>However, that last part of the comment can be misunderstood as the caller
>doesn't hold a lasting reference unless they call get_file() themselves.
>This makes the reader assume that LUO is going to automatically reap
>that initial reference from them.
>
>If a driver author assumes LUO is going to reap it, they will follow that
>last sentence and call get_file() to stash the pointer safely. They might
>end up holding two references (thinking one of them will be reaped), and
>could ultimately leak the struct file when they only call fput() once
>during teardown.
>
>Should we just drop that last sentence to make the lifecycle contract
>unambiguous? (i.e., The caller gets a newly bumped reference, and they
>are responsible for exactly one fput() per call).

I think these are all valid points. I will remove the last sentences for
clarity.
>
>> + *
>> + * Context: It must be called with session mutex acquired of a restored session.
>> + * Return: 0 on success. Returns -ENOENT if no file with the matching token is
>> + *         found, or any other negative errno on failure.
>> + */
>> +int liveupdate_get_file_incoming(struct liveupdate_session *s, u64 token,
>> +				 struct file **filep)
>> +{
>> +	return luo_retrieve_file(luo_file_set_from_session_locked(s),
>> +				 token, filep);
>> +}
>
>Nit: Shouldn't we export both of these functions via EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL?
>Since, these new APIs are intended for kernel subsystems to participate
>programmatically, there could be IOMMU drivers (or others) that can be
>compiled as loadable modules. Thus we should export these APIs via
>EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(). If they aren't exported, any loadable module
>attempting to use them will compile successfully (due to the header), but
>will fail to load at runtime with an Unknown symbol error.
>
>IIUC, if a function isn't exported with EXPORT_SYMBOL, it remains hidden
>inside vmlinux, (i.e. it isn't in the kernel's global symbol table used
>during modprobe).

Agreed. Will Update this.

I think there are other LUO APIs that are not exported and can be used
by modules. Let me check those also.
>
>Thanks,
>Praan
>
>[1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v7.0-rc3/source/kernel/liveupdate/luo_file.c#L560
>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-18 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-27 17:56 [PATCH v2 00/16] iommu: Add live update state preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] liveupdate: luo_file: Add internal APIs for file preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 11:40   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 19:08     ` Samiullah Khawaja [this message]
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] iommu: Implement IOMMU Live update FLB callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 21:45   ` David Matlack
2026-05-18 11:52     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 14:10       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-05-18 15:08         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 12:33     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:20       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 17:32         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:06     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] iommu: Implement IOMMU domain preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 22:08   ` David Matlack
2026-05-04 18:33     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 13:13   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:55     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 21:36       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] iommu: Implement device and IOMMU HW preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 22:42   ` David Matlack
2026-05-04 19:06     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  2:07   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 18:47     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 14:01       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:33         ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 13:55   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:44     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] iommu/pages: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve/restore iommu pages Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 14:23   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:22     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] iommupt: Implement preserve/unpreserve/restore callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  2:55   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 18:40     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 13:15   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-19 17:14     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] iommu/vt-d: Implement device and iommu preserve/unpreserve ops Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  6:25   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-08  2:36     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 20:32       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 14:40         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-19 18:26           ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] iommu: Add APIs to get iommu and device preserved state Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 15:52   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] iommu/vt-d: Restore IOMMU state and reclaimed domain ids Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  9:05   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 17:35     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 21:46   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] iommu: Restore and reattach preserved domains to devices Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 13:54   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 16:52     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] iommu/vt-d: preserve PASID table of preserved device Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-08  6:05   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-11 18:45     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-12 11:32       ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-19 22:35   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] iommufd: Implement ioctl to mark HWPT for preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 23:05   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] iommufd: Persist iommu hardware pagetables for live update Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:00   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] iommufd: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve a vfio cdev Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:46   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] vfio/pci: Preserve the iommufd state of the " Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:57   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] iommufd/selftest: Add test to verify iommufd preservation Samiullah Khawaja

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