From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
Yilun Xu <yilun.xu@intel.com>,
Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@intel.com>,
Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Peter Fang <peter.fang@intel.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TDG quote analysis
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 16:19:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <arG7delLjerkKbYQ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de659c43-4121-483b-acbd-e1c4f89e4e80@intel.com>
On Mon, Sep 21, 2026, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 9/18/26 14:32, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > By creating these system-wide thread pools, TDX has effectively created a bizarre
> > M:N scheduling problem, *and* introduced a completely avoidable noisy-neighbor
> > problem.
>
> To be honest, I just want to chop all of the complexity out of this.
>
> I want to assume that the TDX module can do one quote at a time. If that
> quote takes too long, software kills it and lets the next guy do a quote.
>
> I don't even want to know that the TDX module *can* have 1 or 10 or 100
> quoting threads. I just want one which I can make sane rules around
> because 1 is *FINE*.
I'm not remotely convinced one per system is fine. I'm all for one per VM, but
I'm pretty sure the SEAMCALL alone will have a measurable performance impact,
especially when factoring in that it will require a VMCS shootdown to do VMCLEAR
on the previous pCPU. Mix in a few (tens of?) thousand more cycles, and any use
case that's trying to boot a decent number of TDX guests in parallel will be sad.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-21 23:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-16 0:48 TDG quote analysis Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-16 18:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-16 18:49 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-16 19:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-16 22:31 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-16 23:00 ` Peter Fang
2026-09-16 23:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-17 0:56 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-17 13:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-17 18:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-17 19:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-17 21:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-18 0:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-18 2:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-18 13:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-18 18:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-18 21:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-21 23:00 ` Peter Fang
2026-09-21 23:06 ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-23 4:09 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-09-24 0:03 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-09-24 0:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-24 0:44 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24 16:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-21 23:04 ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-21 23:19 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-09-21 23:36 ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-21 23:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-22 0:03 ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-22 6:48 ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-09-22 17:07 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23 8:50 ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-09-23 22:50 ` Peter Fang
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