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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Peter Fang <peter.fang@intel.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Yilun Xu <yilun.xu@intel.com>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@intel.com>,
	Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TDG quote analysis
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 16:06:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12541025-6579-4baf-911d-dcf1453b3e27@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arG3KvaVqWCDAyM9@intel.com>

On 9/21/26 16:00, Peter Fang wrote:
>> is how to hide the fact that someone in the future might think following AMD's
>> lead and putting a precious resource into a tiny microprosser on a slow bus is a
>> fantastic idea.
> As shocking as it sounds, there are actually cloud providers out there
> that are wanting this, or at the very least wanting to see how it goes
> in real deployment. I think memory side channel attacks are a real
> concern for some of them. But yeah this is not great from a performance
> perspective.

I'll believe it when I see it (on this mailing list).

If folks want complexity and low performance in the kernel for
side-channel defense, then I'm your guy. I've made half a career out of
it. All that I ask is that they come and ask for it in the open. Here,
please.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-16  0:48 TDG quote analysis Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-16 18:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-16 18:49   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-16 19:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-16 22:31       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-16 23:00         ` Peter Fang
2026-09-16 23:57           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-17  0:56             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-17 13:37               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-17 18:12                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-17 19:57                   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-17 21:32                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-18  0:04                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-18  2:39                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-18 13:13                           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-18 18:12                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-18 21:32                               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-21 23:00                                 ` Peter Fang
2026-09-21 23:06                                   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2026-09-23  4:09                                     ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-09-24  0:03                                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-09-24  0:18                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-24  0:44                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24 16:28                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-21 23:04                                 ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-21 23:19                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-21 23:36                                     ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-21 23:46                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-22  0:03                                         ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-22  6:48                                           ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-09-22 17:07                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  8:50                                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-09-23 22:50                                                 ` Peter Fang

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