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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: Okamoto Takayuki <tokamoto@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <cdall@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 14/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Add SVE support to register access ioctl interface
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 14:10:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180726131006.GW4240@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180725172057.tvesmvfjtwe6sxla@kamzik.brq.redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 07:20:57PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 03:06:21PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 03:04:33PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 03:57:38PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > > > +
> > > > +	if (usize % sizeof(u32))
> > > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > 
> > 
> > Currently we don't enforce the register size to be a multiple of 32 bits,
> > but I'm trying to establish a stronger position.  Passing different
> > register sizes feels like an abuse of the API and there is no evidence
> > that qemu or kvmtool is relying on this so far.  The ability to pass
> > a misaligned register ID and/or slurp multiple vcpu registers (or parts
> > of registers) is once call really seems like it works by accident today
> > and seems not to be intentional design.  Rather, it exposes kernel
> > implementation details, which is best avoided.
> > 
> > It would be better to make this a global check for usize % 32 == 0
> > though, rather than burying it in fpsimd_vreg_bounds().
> > 
> > Opinions?
> 
> There's only one reason to not start enforcing it globally on arm/arm64,
> and that's that it's not documented that way. Changing it would be an API
> change, rather than just an API fix. It's probably a safe change, but...

I agree, though there are few direct users of this API, and I couldn't
come up with a scenario where anyone in their right mind would access
the core regs struct with access sizes <= 16 bits, and I've seen no
evidence so far of the API being used in this way.

So it would be nice to close this hole before it springs a leak.

I'll keep if for now, but flag it up for attention in the repost.
I'm happy to drop it if people care strongly enough.

> > > > +
> > > > +	usize /= sizeof(u32);
> > > > +
> > > > +	if ((uoffset <= start && usize <= start - uoffset) ||
> > > > +	    uoffset >= limit)
> > > > +		return -ENOENT;	/* not a vreg */
> > > > +
> > > > +	BUILD_BUG_ON(uoffset > limit);
> > > 
> > > Hmm, a build bug on uoffset can't be right, it's not a constant.
> > > 
> > > > +	if (uoffset < start || usize > limit - uoffset)
> > > > +		return -EINVAL;	/* overlaps vregs[] bounds */
> > 
> > uoffset is not compile-time constant, but (uoffset > limit) is compile-
> > time constant, because the previous if() returns from the function
> > otherwise.
> > 
> > gcc seems to do the right thing here: the code compiles as-is, but
> > if the prior if() is commented out then the BUILD_BUG_ON() fires
> > because (uoffset > limit) is no longer compile-time constant.
> 
> Oh, interesting.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > This is a defensively-coded bounds check, where
> > 
> > 	if (A + B > C)
> > 
> > is transformed to
> > 
> > 	if (C >= B && A > C - B)
> > 
> > The former is susceptible to overflow in (A + B), whereas the latter is
> > not.  We might be able to hide the risk with type casts, but that trades
> > one kind of fragility for another IMHO.
> > 
> > In this patch, the C >= B part is subsumed into the previous if(), but
> > because this is non-obvious I dropped the BUILD_BUG_ON() in as a hint
> > to maintainers that we really do depend on a property of the previous
> > check, so although it may look like the checks could be swapped over
> > with no ill effects, really that is not safe.
> 
> I'm glad our maintainers can pick up on hints like that :-) Maybe you can
> add a comment for mortals like me though.

Hint taken...  I'll add a comment.  No doubt I'd eventually forget why 
the BUILD_BUG_ON() was there too.

> > Maybe the BUILD_BUG_ON() is superfluous, but I would prefer at least
> > to keep a comment here.
> > 
> > What do you think.
> >
> 
> Comment plus build-bug or just comment works for me.
> 
> > 
> > OTOH, if we can show conclusively that we can avoid overflow here
> > then the code can be simplified.  But I would want to be confident
> > that this is really safe not just now but also under future maintenance.
> > 
> 
> I agree with thoroughly checking user input. Maybe we can create/use
> some helper functions to do it. Those helpers can then get reused
> elsewhere, helping to keep ourselves sane the next time we need to
> do similar sanity checks.

It's a bit tricky to get right, because it all depends on the
combination of types being used in the expression.

I might have a think about how to do this, but for now I don't want to
introduce more churn.

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-26 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-21 14:57 [RFC PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Initial support for SVE guests Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] arm64: fpsimd: Always set TIF_FOREIGN_FPSTATE on task state flush Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:07   ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] KVM: arm64: Delete orphaned declaration for __fpsimd_enabled() Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:08   ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] KVM: arm64: Refactor kvm_arm_num_regs() for easier maintenance Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:20   ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] KVM: arm64: Add missing #include of <linux/bitmap.h> to kvm_host.h Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:21   ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] KVM: arm: Add arch init/uninit hooks Dave Martin
2018-07-06 10:02   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-09 15:15     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] arm64/sve: Determine virtualisation-friendly vector lengths Dave Martin
2018-07-06 13:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] arm64/sve: Enable SVE state tracking for non-task contexts Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:58   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 14:39     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] KVM: arm64: Support dynamically hideable system registers Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:12   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 14:36     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:41       ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-26 12:53         ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:20   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  8:33     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] KVM: arm64: Allow ID registers to by dynamically read-as-zero Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:46   ` Alex Bennée
2018-08-06 13:03   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:09     ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:35       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  9:11         ` Dave Martin
2018-08-08  9:58           ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08 14:03           ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-09 10:19             ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] KVM: arm64: Add a vcpu flag to control SVE visibility for the guest Dave Martin
2018-07-19 11:08   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:41     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:43       ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:41         ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 15:02   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:48     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] KVM: arm64/sve: System register context switch and access support Dave Martin
2018-07-19 11:11   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:45     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Context switch the SVE registers Dave Martin
2018-07-19 13:13   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:50     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:57       ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:12         ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:19   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:15     ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:43       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  8:23         ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] KVM: Allow 2048-bit register access via KVM_{GET, SET}_ONE_REG Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:58   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-26 12:58     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-26 13:55       ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-27  9:26         ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Add SVE support to register access ioctl interface Dave Martin
2018-07-19 13:04   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:06     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 17:20       ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:10         ` Dave Martin [this message]
2018-08-03 14:57     ` Dave Martin
2018-08-03 15:11       ` Andrew Jones
2018-08-03 15:38         ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:25   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:17     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] KVM: arm64: Enumerate SVE register indices for KVM_GET_REG_LIST Dave Martin
2018-07-19 14:12   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:50     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Report and enable SVE API extensions for userspace Dave Martin
2018-07-19 14:59   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 15:27     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 16:52       ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:18         ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:41           ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:23             ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 20:08               ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  8:30                 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 15:24   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:23     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  8:22 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Initial support for SVE guests Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:05   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:20     ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:23       ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-06 10:11         ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06 10:14           ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-06 13:05 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:18   ` Dave Martin

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