From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Cc: Okamoto Takayuki <tokamoto@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Christoffer Dall <cdall@kernel.org>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/16] arm64/sve: Determine virtualisation-friendly vector lengths
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 14:20:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c37dbbd8-8ed5-3114-ba9d-248baa59a659@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1529593060-542-7-git-send-email-Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Hi Dave,
On 21/06/18 15:57, Dave Martin wrote:
> Software at EL1 is permitted to assume that when programming
> ZCR_EL1.LEN, the effective vector length is nonetheless a vector
> length supported by the CPU. Thus, software may rely on the
> effective vector length being different from that programmed via
> ZCR_EL1.LEN in some situations.
>
> However, KVM does not tightly bind vcpus to individual underlying
> physical CPUs. As a result, vcpus can migrate from one CPU to
> another. This means that in order to preserve the guarantee
> described in the previous paragraph, the set of supported vector
> lengths must appear to be the same for the vcpu at all times,
> irrespective of which physical CPU the vcpu is currently running
> on.
>
> The Arm SVE architecture allows the maximum vector length visible
> to EL1 to be restricted by programming ZCR_EL2.LEN. This provides
> a means to hide from guests any vector lengths that are not
> supported by every physical CPU in the system. However, there is
> no way to hide a particular vector length while some greater vector
> length is exposed to EL1.
>
> This patch determines the maximum vector length
> (sve_max_virtualisable_vl) for which the set of supported vector
> lengths not exceeding it is identical for all CPUs. When KVM is
> available, the set of vector lengths supported by each late
> secondary CPU is verified to be consistent with those of the early
> CPUs, in order to ensure that the value chosen for
> sve_max_virtualisable_vl remains globally valid, and ensure that
> all created vcpus continue to behave correctly.
>
> sve_secondary_vq_map is used as scratch space for these
> computations, rendering its name misleading. This patch renames
> this bitmap to sve_tmp_vq_map in order to make its purpose clearer.
I'm slightly put off by this patch.
While it does a great job making sure we're always in a situation where
we can offer SVE to a guest, no matter how utterly broken the system is,
I wonder if there is a real value in jumping through all these hoops the
first place.
It is (sort of) reasonable to support a system that has different max
VLs (big-little) and cap it at the minimum of the max VLs (just like we
do for userspace). But I don't think it is reasonable to consider
systems that have different supported VLs in that range, and I don't
think any system exhibit that behaviour.
To put it another way, if a "small" CPU's supported VLs are not a strict
prefix of the "big" ones', we just disable SVE support in KVM. I'd be
tempted to do the same thing for userspace too, but that's a separate
discussion.
Can we turn this patch into one that checks the above condition instead
of trying to cope with an unacceptable level of braindeadness?
Thanks,
M.
--
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-06 13:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-21 14:57 [RFC PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Initial support for SVE guests Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] arm64: fpsimd: Always set TIF_FOREIGN_FPSTATE on task state flush Dave Martin
2018-07-06 9:07 ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] KVM: arm64: Delete orphaned declaration for __fpsimd_enabled() Dave Martin
2018-07-06 9:08 ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] KVM: arm64: Refactor kvm_arm_num_regs() for easier maintenance Dave Martin
2018-07-06 9:20 ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] KVM: arm64: Add missing #include of <linux/bitmap.h> to kvm_host.h Dave Martin
2018-07-06 9:21 ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] KVM: arm: Add arch init/uninit hooks Dave Martin
2018-07-06 10:02 ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-09 15:15 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] arm64/sve: Determine virtualisation-friendly vector lengths Dave Martin
2018-07-06 13:20 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] arm64/sve: Enable SVE state tracking for non-task contexts Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:58 ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 14:39 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] KVM: arm64: Support dynamically hideable system registers Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:12 ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 14:36 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:41 ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-26 12:53 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:20 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08 8:33 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] KVM: arm64: Allow ID registers to by dynamically read-as-zero Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:46 ` Alex Bennée
2018-08-06 13:03 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:09 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:35 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08 9:11 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-08 9:58 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08 14:03 ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-09 10:19 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] KVM: arm64: Add a vcpu flag to control SVE visibility for the guest Dave Martin
2018-07-19 11:08 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:41 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:43 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:41 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 15:02 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:48 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] KVM: arm64/sve: System register context switch and access support Dave Martin
2018-07-19 11:11 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:45 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Context switch the SVE registers Dave Martin
2018-07-19 13:13 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:50 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:57 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:12 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:19 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:15 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:43 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08 8:23 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] KVM: Allow 2048-bit register access via KVM_{GET, SET}_ONE_REG Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:58 ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-26 12:58 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-26 13:55 ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-27 9:26 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Add SVE support to register access ioctl interface Dave Martin
2018-07-19 13:04 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:06 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 17:20 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:10 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-03 14:57 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-03 15:11 ` Andrew Jones
2018-08-03 15:38 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:25 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:17 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] KVM: arm64: Enumerate SVE register indices for KVM_GET_REG_LIST Dave Martin
2018-07-19 14:12 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:50 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Report and enable SVE API extensions for userspace Dave Martin
2018-07-19 14:59 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 15:27 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 16:52 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:18 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:41 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:23 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 20:08 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08 8:30 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 15:24 ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:23 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06 8:22 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Initial support for SVE guests Alex Bennée
2018-07-06 9:05 ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06 9:20 ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06 9:23 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-06 10:11 ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06 10:14 ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-06 13:05 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:18 ` Dave Martin
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