* Re: [EXT] Re: [Intel-wired-lan] Intel I350 regression 5.10 -> 5.14 ("The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid") [8086:1521] [not found] ` <2801801.e9J7NaK4W3@kailua> @ 2021-10-12 17:42 ` Paul Menzel 2021-10-12 17:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Paul Menzel @ 2021-10-12 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas K. Huettel, Jesse Brandeburg Cc: netdev, intel-wired-lan, Jakub Kicinski, Rafael J. Wysocki, Len Brown, ACPI Devel Maling List, Rafael J. Wysocki [Cc: +ACPI maintainers] Am 12.10.21 um 18:34 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: >>> The messages easily identifiable are: >>> >>> huettel@pinacolada ~/tmp $ cat kernel-messages-5.10.59.txt |grep igb >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090675] igb: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090676] igb: Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Intel Corporation. >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090728] igb 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) >> >> This line is missing below, it indicates that the kernel couldn't or >> didn't power up the PCIe for some reason. We're looking for something >> like ACPI or PCI patches (possibly PCI-Power management) to be the >> culprit here. > > So I did a git bisect from linux-v5.10 (good) to linux-v5.14.11 (bad). > > The result was: > > dilfridge /usr/src/linux-git # git bisect bad > 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 is the first bad commit > commit 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 > Author: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> > Date: Mon May 24 17:26:16 2021 +0200 > > ACPI: power: Rework turning off unused power resources > [...] > > I tried naive reverting of this commit on top of 5.14.11. That applies nearly cleanly, > and after a reboot the additional ethernet interfaces show up with their MAC in the > boot messages. > > (Not knowing how safe that experiment was, I did not go further than single mode and > immediately rebooted into 5.10 afterwards.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [EXT] Re: [Intel-wired-lan] Intel I350 regression 5.10 -> 5.14 ("The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid") [8086:1521] 2021-10-12 17:42 ` [EXT] Re: [Intel-wired-lan] Intel I350 regression 5.10 -> 5.14 ("The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid") [8086:1521] Paul Menzel @ 2021-10-12 17:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2021-10-12 19:28 ` Andreas K. Huettel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2021-10-12 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Menzel Cc: Andreas K. Huettel, Jesse Brandeburg, netdev, intel-wired-lan, Jakub Kicinski, Rafael J. Wysocki, Len Brown, ACPI Devel Maling List, Rafael J. Wysocki On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 7:42 PM Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> wrote: > > [Cc: +ACPI maintainers] > > Am 12.10.21 um 18:34 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > >>> The messages easily identifiable are: > >>> > >>> huettel@pinacolada ~/tmp $ cat kernel-messages-5.10.59.txt |grep igb > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090675] igb: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090676] igb: Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Intel Corporation. > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090728] igb 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) > >> > >> This line is missing below, it indicates that the kernel couldn't or > >> didn't power up the PCIe for some reason. We're looking for something > >> like ACPI or PCI patches (possibly PCI-Power management) to be the > >> culprit here. > > > > So I did a git bisect from linux-v5.10 (good) to linux-v5.14.11 (bad). > > > > The result was: > > > > dilfridge /usr/src/linux-git # git bisect bad > > 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 is the first bad commit > > commit 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 > > Author: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> > > Date: Mon May 24 17:26:16 2021 +0200 > > > > ACPI: power: Rework turning off unused power resources > > [...] > > > > I tried naive reverting of this commit on top of 5.14.11. That applies nearly cleanly, > > and after a reboot the additional ethernet interfaces show up with their MAC in the > > boot messages. > > > > (Not knowing how safe that experiment was, I did not go further than single mode and > > immediately rebooted into 5.10 afterwards.) Reverting this is rather not an option, because the code before it was a one-off fix of an earlier issue, but it should be fixable given some more information. Basically, I need a boot log from both the good and bad cases and the acpidump output from the affected machine. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [EXT] Re: [Intel-wired-lan] Intel I350 regression 5.10 -> 5.14 ("The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid") [8086:1521] 2021-10-12 17:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2021-10-12 19:28 ` Andreas K. Huettel 2021-10-14 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Andreas K. Huettel @ 2021-10-12 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Menzel, Rafael J. Wysocki Cc: Jesse Brandeburg, netdev, intel-wired-lan, Jakub Kicinski, Rafael J. Wysocki, Len Brown, ACPI Devel Maling List, Rafael J. Wysocki [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2525 bytes --] Am Dienstag, 12. Oktober 2021, 19:58:47 CEST schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 7:42 PM Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> wrote: > > > > [Cc: +ACPI maintainers] > > > > Am 12.10.21 um 18:34 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > > >>> The messages easily identifiable are: > > >>> > > >>> huettel@pinacolada ~/tmp $ cat kernel-messages-5.10.59.txt |grep igb > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090675] igb: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090676] igb: Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Intel Corporation. > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090728] igb 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) > > >> > > >> This line is missing below, it indicates that the kernel couldn't or > > >> didn't power up the PCIe for some reason. We're looking for something > > >> like ACPI or PCI patches (possibly PCI-Power management) to be the > > >> culprit here. > > > > > > So I did a git bisect from linux-v5.10 (good) to linux-v5.14.11 (bad). > > > > > > The result was: > > > > > > dilfridge /usr/src/linux-git # git bisect bad > > > 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 is the first bad commit > > > commit 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 > > > Author: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> > > > Date: Mon May 24 17:26:16 2021 +0200 > > > > > > ACPI: power: Rework turning off unused power resources > > > [...] > > > > > > I tried naive reverting of this commit on top of 5.14.11. That applies nearly cleanly, > > > and after a reboot the additional ethernet interfaces show up with their MAC in the > > > boot messages. > > > > > > (Not knowing how safe that experiment was, I did not go further than single mode and > > > immediately rebooted into 5.10 afterwards.) > > Reverting this is rather not an option, because the code before it was > a one-off fix of an earlier issue, but it should be fixable given some > more information. > > Basically, I need a boot log from both the good and bad cases and the > acpidump output from the affected machine. > https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/igb/ ^ Should all be here now. 5.10 -> "good" log (the errors are caused by missing support for my i915 graphics and hopefully unrelated) 5.14 -> "bad" log Thank you for looking at this. If you need anything else, just ask. Andreas -- PD Dr. Andreas K. Huettel Institute for Experimental and Applied Physics University of Regensburg 93040 Regensburg Germany e-mail andreas.huettel@ur.de http://www.akhuettel.de/ [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 981 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [EXT] Re: [Intel-wired-lan] Intel I350 regression 5.10 -> 5.14 ("The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid") [8086:1521] 2021-10-12 19:28 ` Andreas K. Huettel @ 2021-10-14 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2021-10-15 14:00 ` Andreas K. Huettel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2021-10-14 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas K. Huettel Cc: Paul Menzel, Rafael J. Wysocki, Jesse Brandeburg, netdev, intel-wired-lan, Jakub Kicinski, Rafael J. Wysocki, Len Brown, ACPI Devel Maling List [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2596 bytes --] On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 9:36 PM Andreas K. Huettel <andreas.huettel@ur.de> wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 12. Oktober 2021, 19:58:47 CEST schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki: > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 7:42 PM Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> wrote: > > > > > > [Cc: +ACPI maintainers] > > > > > > Am 12.10.21 um 18:34 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > > > >>> The messages easily identifiable are: > > > >>> > > > >>> huettel@pinacolada ~/tmp $ cat kernel-messages-5.10.59.txt |grep igb > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090675] igb: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090676] igb: Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Intel Corporation. > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090728] igb 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) > > > >> > > > >> This line is missing below, it indicates that the kernel couldn't or > > > >> didn't power up the PCIe for some reason. We're looking for something > > > >> like ACPI or PCI patches (possibly PCI-Power management) to be the > > > >> culprit here. > > > > > > > > So I did a git bisect from linux-v5.10 (good) to linux-v5.14.11 (bad). > > > > > > > > The result was: > > > > > > > > dilfridge /usr/src/linux-git # git bisect bad > > > > 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 is the first bad commit > > > > commit 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 > > > > Author: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> > > > > Date: Mon May 24 17:26:16 2021 +0200 > > > > > > > > ACPI: power: Rework turning off unused power resources > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > I tried naive reverting of this commit on top of 5.14.11. That applies nearly cleanly, > > > > and after a reboot the additional ethernet interfaces show up with their MAC in the > > > > boot messages. > > > > > > > > (Not knowing how safe that experiment was, I did not go further than single mode and > > > > immediately rebooted into 5.10 afterwards.) > > > > Reverting this is rather not an option, because the code before it was > > a one-off fix of an earlier issue, but it should be fixable given some > > more information. > > > > Basically, I need a boot log from both the good and bad cases and the > > acpidump output from the affected machine. > > > > https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/igb/ > > ^ Should all be here now. > > 5.10 -> "good" log (the errors are caused by missing support for my i915 graphics and hopefully unrelated) > 5.14 -> "bad" log > > Thank you for looking at this. If you need anything else, just ask. You're welcome. Please test the attached patch and let me know if it helps. [-- Attachment #2: acpi-power-turn-off-fixup.patch --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 909 bytes --] --- drivers/acpi/power.c | 7 +------ 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 6 deletions(-) Index: linux-pm/drivers/acpi/power.c =================================================================== --- linux-pm.orig/drivers/acpi/power.c +++ linux-pm/drivers/acpi/power.c @@ -1035,13 +1035,8 @@ void acpi_turn_off_unused_power_resource list_for_each_entry_reverse(resource, &acpi_power_resource_list, list_node) { mutex_lock(&resource->resource_lock); - /* - * Turn off power resources in an unknown state too, because the - * platform firmware on some system expects the OS to turn off - * power resources without any users unconditionally. - */ if (!resource->ref_count && - resource->state != ACPI_POWER_RESOURCE_STATE_OFF) { + resource->state == ACPI_POWER_RESOURCE_STATE_ON) { acpi_handle_debug(resource->device.handle, "Turning OFF\n"); __acpi_power_off(resource); } ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [EXT] Re: [Intel-wired-lan] Intel I350 regression 5.10 -> 5.14 ("The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid") [8086:1521] 2021-10-14 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2021-10-15 14:00 ` Andreas K. Huettel 2021-10-15 18:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Andreas K. Huettel @ 2021-10-15 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rafael J. Wysocki Cc: Paul Menzel, Rafael J. Wysocki, Jesse Brandeburg, netdev, intel-wired-lan, Jakub Kicinski, Rafael J. Wysocki, Len Brown, ACPI Devel Maling List [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3710 bytes --] Am Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2021, 14:09:39 CEST schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki: > > > > >>> huettel@pinacolada ~/tmp $ cat kernel-messages-5.10.59.txt |grep igb > > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090675] igb: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver > > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090676] igb: Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Intel Corporation. > > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090728] igb 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) > > > > >> > > > > >> This line is missing below, it indicates that the kernel couldn't or > > > > >> didn't power up the PCIe for some reason. We're looking for something > > > > >> like ACPI or PCI patches (possibly PCI-Power management) to be the > > > > >> culprit here. > > > > > > > > > > So I did a git bisect from linux-v5.10 (good) to linux-v5.14.11 (bad). > > > > > > > > > > The result was: > > > > > > > > > > dilfridge /usr/src/linux-git # git bisect bad > > > > > 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 is the first bad commit > > > > > commit 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 > > > > > Author: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> > > > > > Date: Mon May 24 17:26:16 2021 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > ACPI: power: Rework turning off unused power resources > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > I tried naive reverting of this commit on top of 5.14.11. That applies nearly cleanly, > > > > > and after a reboot the additional ethernet interfaces show up with their MAC in the > > > > > boot messages. > > > > > > > > > > (Not knowing how safe that experiment was, I did not go further than single mode and > > > > > immediately rebooted into 5.10 afterwards.) > > > > > > Reverting this is rather not an option, because the code before it was > > > a one-off fix of an earlier issue, but it should be fixable given some > > > more information. > > > > > > Basically, I need a boot log from both the good and bad cases and the > > > acpidump output from the affected machine. > > > > > > > https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/igb/ > > > > ^ Should all be here now. > > > > 5.10 -> "good" log (the errors are caused by missing support for my i915 graphics and hopefully unrelated) > > 5.14 -> "bad" log > > > > Thank you for looking at this. If you need anything else, just ask. > > You're welcome. > > Please test the attached patch and let me know if it helps. > It helps (*); the second ethernet adaptor is initialized, and works normally as far as I can see. (*) The debug output line following the if-condition apparently changed in the meantime, so I had to apply the change in the if-condition "manually". igb: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver igb: Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Intel Corporation. igb 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) igb 0000:01:00.0: added PHC on eth1 igb 0000:01:00.0: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Connection igb 0000:01:00.0: eth1: (PCIe:5.0Gb/s:Width x4) 6c:b3:11:23:d4:4c igb 0000:01:00.0: eth1: PBA No: H47819-001 igb 0000:01:00.0: Using MSI-X interrupts. 8 rx queue(s), 8 tx queue(s) igb 0000:01:00.1: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) igb 0000:01:00.1: added PHC on eth2 igb 0000:01:00.1: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Connection igb 0000:01:00.1: eth2: (PCIe:5.0Gb/s:Width x4) 6c:b3:11:23:d4:4d igb 0000:01:00.1: eth2: PBA No: H47819-001 igb 0000:01:00.1: Using MSI-X interrupts. 8 rx queue(s), 8 tx queue(s) The full boot log is at https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/igb/ as 5.14.11-*.txt Thanks, Andreas -- PD Dr. Andreas K. Huettel Institute for Experimental and Applied Physics University of Regensburg 93040 Regensburg Germany e-mail andreas.huettel@ur.de http://www.akhuettel.de/ http://www.physik.uni-r.de/forschung/huettel/ [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 981 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [EXT] Re: [Intel-wired-lan] Intel I350 regression 5.10 -> 5.14 ("The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid") [8086:1521] 2021-10-15 14:00 ` Andreas K. Huettel @ 2021-10-15 18:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2021-10-15 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas K. Huettel Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Paul Menzel, Jesse Brandeburg, netdev, intel-wired-lan, Jakub Kicinski, Rafael J. Wysocki, Len Brown, ACPI Devel Maling List On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:01 PM Andreas K. Huettel <andreas.huettel@ur.de> wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2021, 14:09:39 CEST schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki: > > > > > >>> huettel@pinacolada ~/tmp $ cat kernel-messages-5.10.59.txt |grep igb > > > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090675] igb: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver > > > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090676] igb: Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Intel Corporation. > > > > > >>> Oct 5 15:11:18 dilfridge kernel: [ 2.090728] igb 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> This line is missing below, it indicates that the kernel couldn't or > > > > > >> didn't power up the PCIe for some reason. We're looking for something > > > > > >> like ACPI or PCI patches (possibly PCI-Power management) to be the > > > > > >> culprit here. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I did a git bisect from linux-v5.10 (good) to linux-v5.14.11 (bad). > > > > > > > > > > > > The result was: > > > > > > > > > > > > dilfridge /usr/src/linux-git # git bisect bad > > > > > > 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 is the first bad commit > > > > > > commit 6381195ad7d06ef979528c7452f3ff93659f86b1 > > > > > > Author: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> > > > > > > Date: Mon May 24 17:26:16 2021 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > > ACPI: power: Rework turning off unused power resources > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried naive reverting of this commit on top of 5.14.11. That applies nearly cleanly, > > > > > > and after a reboot the additional ethernet interfaces show up with their MAC in the > > > > > > boot messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > (Not knowing how safe that experiment was, I did not go further than single mode and > > > > > > immediately rebooted into 5.10 afterwards.) > > > > > > > > Reverting this is rather not an option, because the code before it was > > > > a one-off fix of an earlier issue, but it should be fixable given some > > > > more information. > > > > > > > > Basically, I need a boot log from both the good and bad cases and the > > > > acpidump output from the affected machine. > > > > > > > > > > https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/igb/ > > > > > > ^ Should all be here now. > > > > > > 5.10 -> "good" log (the errors are caused by missing support for my i915 graphics and hopefully unrelated) > > > 5.14 -> "bad" log > > > > > > Thank you for looking at this. If you need anything else, just ask. > > > > You're welcome. > > > > Please test the attached patch and let me know if it helps. > > > > It helps (*); the second ethernet adaptor is initialized, and works normally as far as I can see. > > (*) The debug output line following the if-condition apparently changed in the meantime, so I had > to apply the change in the if-condition "manually". > > igb: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver > igb: Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Intel Corporation. > igb 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) > igb 0000:01:00.0: added PHC on eth1 > igb 0000:01:00.0: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Connection > igb 0000:01:00.0: eth1: (PCIe:5.0Gb/s:Width x4) 6c:b3:11:23:d4:4c > igb 0000:01:00.0: eth1: PBA No: H47819-001 > igb 0000:01:00.0: Using MSI-X interrupts. 8 rx queue(s), 8 tx queue(s) > igb 0000:01:00.1: enabling device (0000 -> 0002) > igb 0000:01:00.1: added PHC on eth2 > igb 0000:01:00.1: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Connection > igb 0000:01:00.1: eth2: (PCIe:5.0Gb/s:Width x4) 6c:b3:11:23:d4:4d > igb 0000:01:00.1: eth2: PBA No: H47819-001 > igb 0000:01:00.1: Using MSI-X interrupts. 8 rx queue(s), 8 tx queue(s) > > The full boot log is at https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/igb/ as 5.14.11-*.txt Thank you! I've added a changelog to it and resent along with another patch to test for you: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/21226252.EfDdHjke4D@kreacher/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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