From: mark.rutland@arm.com (Mark Rutland)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 17:23:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150910162302.GN29293@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101655020.2672@kaball.uk.xensource.com>
> > C) When you could go:
> >
> > DT -> Discover Xen -> Xen-specific stuff -> Xen-specific EFI/ACPI discovery
>
> I take you mean discovering Xen with the usual Xen hypervisor node on
> device tree. I think that C) is a good option actually. I like it. Not
> sure why we didn't think about this earlier. Is there anything EFI or
> ACPI which is needed before Xen support is discovered by
> arch/arm64/kernel/setup.c:setup_arch -> xen_early_init()?
Currently lots (including the memory map). With the stuff to support
SPCR, the ACPI discovery would be moved before xen_early_init().
> If not, we could just go for this. A lot of complexity would go away.
I suspect this would still be fairly complex, but would at least prevent
the Xen-specific EFI handling from adversely affecting the native case.
> > D) If you want to be generic:
> > EFI -> EFI application -> EFI tables -> ACPI tables -> Xen-specific stuff
> > \------------------------------------------/
> > (virtualize these, provide shims to Dom0, but handle
> > everything in Xen itself)
>
> I think that this is good in theory but could turn out to be a lot of
> work in practice. We could probably virtualize the RuntimeServices but
> the BootServices are troublesome.
What's troublesome with the boot services?
What can't be simulated?
> > E) Partially-generic option:
> > EFI -> EFI application -> Xen detected by registered GUID -> Xen-specific EFI bootloader stuff -> OS in Xen-specific configuration
> >
> >
> > > > > In any case this should be separate from the shim ABI discussion.
> > > >
> > > > I disagree; I think this is very much relevant to the ABI discussion.
> > > > That's not to say that I insist on a particular approach, but I think
> > > > that they need to be considered together.
> > >
> > > Let's suppose Xen didn't expose any RuntimeServices at all, would that
> > > make it easier to discuss about the EFI stub parameters?
> >
> > It would simply the protocol specific to Xen, certainly.
> >
> > > In the grant scheme of things, they are not that important, as Ian
> > > wrote what is important is how to pass the RSDP.
> >
> > Unfortunately we're still going to have to care about this eventually,
> > even if for something like kexec. So we still need to spec out the state
> > of things if this is going to be truly generic.
>
> Fair enough. My position is that if we restrict this to RuntimeServices,
> it might be possible, but I still prefer C).
Regardless of what we do we still need a well-defined state here, which
brings us back to the initial problem eventually.
Thanks,
Mark.
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-10 8:41 [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao
2015-09-10 9:52 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 10:19 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 11:24 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:37 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 12:15 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:58 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:08 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 13:30 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:52 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 14:13 ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-10 14:49 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 16:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 16:23 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2015-09-11 12:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 13:14 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-11 13:30 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 15:45 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 8:42 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14 9:09 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 9:31 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14 9:36 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 10:39 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-09-14 11:16 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 11:34 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11 16:33 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:25 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-12 11:36 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 9:25 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-14 9:43 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 9:57 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-14 10:02 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 10:25 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-14 12:28 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 13:09 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 13:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 9:47 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-14 12:19 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 11:00 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 12:55 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 14:53 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 15:06 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11 16:36 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:32 ` Andrew Turner
2015-09-10 11:48 ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:05 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-09-10 12:53 ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2015-09-17 11:43 ` Shannon Zhao
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