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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Shyam Saini <shyamsaini@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	thierry.reding@gmail.com, robin.murphy@arm.com, robh@kernel.org,
	joro@8bytes.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev, jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com,
	eric.auger@redhat.com, code@tyhicks.com,
	eahariha@linux.microsoft.com, vijayb@linux.microsoft.com,
	bboscaccy@linux.microsoft.com, saravanak@google.com,
	krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, lizhi.hou@amd.com,
	clement.leger@bootlin.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] arm-smmu: select suitable MSI IOVA
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:19:12 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250923161912.GB2547959@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250923155647.GA22010@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 08:56:47AM -0700, Shyam Saini wrote:
> Hi Jason, Will,
> 
> On 19 Sep 2025 09:08, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 08:33:23AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > pieces and will need to work on the userspace side. It's not like
> > > MSI_IOVA2 is magically going to work (and I bet it won't be tested).
> > 
> > It could, if someone checks the default memory map a second constant
> > could be selected that works.
> > 
> > > > Nicolin has some patches on the iommufd side to let userspace select
> > > > the MSI address instead, but they are not done yet.
> > > 
> > > Maybe we should just wait for that? Carrying a temporary hack with ABI
> > > implications to support broken hardware isn't particularly compelling
> > > to me.
> > 
> > This patch would still be needed for kernel users.
> > 
> > Arguably the kernel users should just be using the iova allocator from
> > dma-iommu.c. This whole hard coded constant/sneaky uapi is just a hack
> > to make vfio work..
> > 
> > So maybe if the single constant doesn't work we could set some
> > indication that the caller must allocate the MSI iova, the kernel can
> > use the dma-iommu allocator and VFIO can just refuse to use the device
> > for now.
> 
> So, are we settling on having two predefined MSI IOVA base constants,
> and if both of those conflict with reserved regions on a given platform,
> falling back to dynamic allocation via the IOVA allocator? Just checking
> if that's the consensus we're reaching.

I think Will is arguing against introducing a new constant..

Yesterday I was looking at the SW_MSI code again.. What specific
problem is it you have?

It looks to me like dma-iommu.c is already allocating MSI addresses
using its built in IOVA allocator. So if your DT is marking that space
reserved then it should Just Work right now as dma-iommu.c already
processes the reserved ranges and will allocate MSI addresses around
them?

The base value of the SW_MSI is only used by VFIO - are you trying to
use VFIO with this device, or have I misunderstood the dma-iommu.c
logic?

If it is only VFIO at issue then perhaps we should solve this by
completing the work Nicolin started to allow VFIO userspace to specify
the MSI Aperture?

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-23 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-09 15:45 [PATCH v4 0/4] arm-smmu: select suitable MSI IOVA Shyam Saini
2025-09-09 15:45 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] arm-smmu: move MSI_IOVA macro definitions Shyam Saini
2025-09-09 15:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] iommu/of: fix device tree configuration for PCI devices Shyam Saini
2025-09-24 17:44   ` Robin Murphy
2025-09-09 15:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] arm-smmu: select suitable MSI IOVA Shyam Saini
2025-09-18 16:49   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-18 22:43     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-19  7:33       ` Will Deacon
2025-09-19 12:08         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 15:56           ` Shyam Saini
2025-09-23 16:19             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-09-24 18:59               ` Robin Murphy
2025-09-09 15:46 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] drivers: iommu: refactor arm_smmu_get_resv_regions Shyam Saini
2025-09-09 15:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-15 16:28     ` Shyam Saini
2025-09-15 22:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-13  0:23   ` kernel test robot

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