From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Evangelos Petrongonas <epetron@amazon.de>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nh-open-source@amazon.com,
Zeev Zilberman <zeev@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow disabling Stage 1 translation
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 13:23:51 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260422162351.GK3611611@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260422064431.GA49867@dev-dsk-epetron-1c-1d4d9719.eu-west-1.amazon.com>
On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 06:44:31AM +0000, Evangelos Petrongonas wrote:
> The motivation is live update of the hypervisor: we want to kexec into a
> new kernel while keeping DMA from passthrough devices flowing, which
> means the SMMU's translation state has to survive the handover. The Live
> Update Orchestrator work [1] and the in-progress "iommu: Add live
> update state preservation" series [2] are building exactly this plumbing
> on top of KHO; [2]'s cover letter calls out Arm SMMUv3 support as future
> work, and an earlier RFC from Amazon [3] sketched the same idea for
> iommufd.
It would be appropriate to keep this patch with the rest of that out
of tree pile, for example in the series that enables s2 only support
in smmuv3.
> For this use case, Stage 2 is materially easier to persist than Stage 1,
> for structural rather than performance reasons:
I don't think so. The driver needs to know each and every STE that
will survive KHO. The ones that don't survive need to be reset to
abort STEs. From that point it is trivial enough to include the CD
memory in the preservation.
It would help to send a preparation series to switch the ARM STE and
CD logic away from dma_alloc_coherent and use iommu-pages instead,
since we only expect iommu-pages to support preservation..
I could maybe see only supporting non-PASID as a first-series, but a
CD table with SSID 0 only populated is still pretty trivial.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-22 16:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-20 12:32 [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow disabling Stage 1 translation Evangelos Petrongonas
2026-04-20 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22 6:44 ` Evangelos Petrongonas
2026-04-22 15:44 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-22 16:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-04-22 16:36 ` Robin Murphy
2026-04-23 9:44 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-23 9:47 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-23 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-23 17:07 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-23 18:43 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-23 22:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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