From: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Evangelos Petrongonas <epetron@amazon.de>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nh-open-source@amazon.com,
Zeev Zilberman <zeev@amazon.com>,
dmatlack@google.com, pasha.tatashin@soleen.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow disabling Stage 1 translation
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 18:43:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aepfYzkI7NsVGCF0@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aepRy7Gp7Ng85Zr7@willie-the-truck>
On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 06:07:23PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
>On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 11:23:26AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 10:47:49AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
>> > > Does iommu-pages provide a mechanism to map the memory as non-cacheable
>> > > if the SMMU isn't coherent?
>>
>> No, it has to use CMOs today.
>>
>> It looks like all the stuff dma_alloc_coherent does to make a
>> non-cached mapping are pretty arch specific. I don't know if there is
>> a way we could make more general code get a struct page into an
>> uncached KVA and meet all the arch rules?
>>
>> I also think dma_alloc_coherent is far to complex, with pools and
>> more, to support KHO.
Agreed. dma_alloc_* is too complex with pools, CMAs and what not to
support fully in KHO.
>
>I wonder if there's scope for supporting just some subset of it?
We have been experimenting with something like this. We have a usecase
where memory needs to be preserved but we want to avoid invasive changes
in the driver.
If it's not a crazy idea, maybe we can start with a very limited scope
of providing preservation for a subset of allocations done through the
DMA API? I can send out my proof of concept as an RFC after I'm done
with the next revision of my IOMMU persistence series. WDYT?
Sami
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-23 18:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-20 12:32 [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow disabling Stage 1 translation Evangelos Petrongonas
2026-04-20 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22 6:44 ` Evangelos Petrongonas
2026-04-22 15:44 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-22 16:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22 16:36 ` Robin Murphy
2026-04-23 9:44 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-23 9:47 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-23 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-23 17:07 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-23 18:43 ` Samiullah Khawaja [this message]
2026-04-23 22:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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