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From: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
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	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
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	Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
	Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Alper Gun <alpergun@google.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Emi Kisanuki <fj0570is@fujitsu.com>,
	Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
	WeiLin.Chang@arm.com, Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 29/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Support runtime faulting of memory
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 16:40:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c04aab0-99e3-47e6-808d-9662dd5b1a10@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <anx9195WR8wokAcL@arm.com>

On 12/08/2026 15:06, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:01:48AM +0100, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>> On 11/08/2026 16:42, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 03, 2026 at 02:43:45PM +0100, Steven Price wrote:
>>>> At runtime if the realm guest accesses memory which hasn't yet been
>>>> mapped then KVM needs to either populate the region or fault the guest.
>>>>
>>>> For memory in the lower (protected) region of IPA a fresh page is
>>>> provided to the RMM which will zero the contents. For memory in the
>>>> upper (shared) region of IPA, the memory from the memslot is mapped
>>>> into the realm VM non secure.
>>>
>>> Is this still true with in-place guestmem conversion?
>>>
>>>> @@ -1693,7 +1709,14 @@ static int gmem_abort(const struct kvm_s2_fault_desc *s2fd)
>>>>    	kvm_fault_lock(kvm);
>>>>    	if (mmu_invalidate_retry(kvm, mmu_seq)) {
>>>>    		ret = -EAGAIN;
>>>> -		goto out_unlock;
>>>> +		goto out_release_page;
>>>> +	}
>>>> +
>>>> +	if (kvm_is_realm(kvm)) {
>>>> +		prot &= ~KVM_PGTABLE_PROT_X;
>>>> +		ret = realm_map_ipa(kvm, s2fd->fault_ipa, pfn,
>>>> +				    PAGE_SIZE, prot, memcache);
>>>> +		goto out_release_page;
>>>>    	}
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> +int realm_map_ipa(struct kvm *kvm, phys_addr_t ipa,
>>>> +		  kvm_pfn_t pfn, unsigned long map_size,
>>>> +		  enum kvm_pgtable_prot prot,
>>>> +		  struct kvm_mmu_memory_cache *memcache)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	struct realm *realm = &kvm->arch.realm;
>>>> +
>>>> +	ipa = ALIGN_DOWN(ipa, map_size);
>>>> +	if (!kvm_realm_is_private_address(realm, ipa)) {
>>>> +		return realm_map_non_secure(kvm, ipa, pfn, map_size, prot,
>>>> +					    memcache);
>>>> +	}
>>>> +
>>>> +	/* It's impossible to map protected pages read-only. */
>>>> +	if (WARN_ON(!(prot & KVM_PGTABLE_PROT_W)))
>>>> +		return -EFAULT;
>>>> +	return realm_map_protected(kvm, ipa, pfn, map_size, memcache);
>>>> +}
>>>
>>> I was trying to understand (with the help of some LLMs) to understand
>>> whether we can end up on the do_gpf() path as a result of VMM actions.
>>> The above kvm_realm_is_private_address() only checks for the IPA but
>>> does not check against guestmem if the page is truly private. I probably
>>> miss something but the scenario would be something like:
>>>
>>> 1. VMM creates the gmem region with GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP |
>>>      GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_INIT_SHARED, mmap()able and GUP-pinnable
>>>
>>> 2. VMM starts an O_DIRECT write() from that mapping; the block layer
>>>      FOLL_PINs the shared folio
>>>
>>> 3. VMM runs a vCPU so the realm touches the protected-IPA alias of the
>>>      same gfn. gmem_abort() delegates the pinned, still-shared page to
>>>      the RMM
>>>
>>> 4. The in-flight I/O then reads the now-Realm page from the kernel
>>>      linear map. That access takes a GPF at EL1, so do_gpf() ->
>>>      die_kernel_fault()
>>
>> This is correct. The fundamental issue is that we have a disconnect
>> between the "gmem attribute" changes (to private/shared) and the
>> RIPAS and this is something we want to fix.
>>
>> e.g., the KVM CCA driver sets the entire DRAM to RIPAS_RAM for
>> the Realm before ACTIVATION and we expect that the VMM changes
>> the gmem to PRIVATE. They both are not in sync. his is something
>> we were discussing the other day with Aneesh.
>>
>> Once they are in sync, we are protected. If the RIPAS=EMPTY
>> (gmem=shared) a stage2 fault doesn't come to the Host.
>>
>> If the RIPAS=RAM, the gmem is private and there are no usespace
>> mappings.
>>
>> The reason why it is disconnected at the moment is due to the
>> weird semantics for Guest triggered conversions in CCA
>> i.e., Realm requests via RSI_IPA_STATE_SET, triggering a RIPAS_CHANGE
>> exit to the KVM.
>>
>> The KVM exits to VMM with MEMORY_FAULT_EXIT and the VMM can service this
>> by invoking GMEM(SET_ATTRIBUTES2).
> 
> I guess a buggy or malicious VMM may skip the gmem attribute setting and
> simply resume the guest. Currently we can end up with SET_RIPAS
> irrespective of what the VMM did. So at this point maybe we need to
> check that the gmem attribute was actually changed before handling the
> pending RMI requests.
> 
> The other place to check the gmem status is when handling the
> gmem_abort().

We did have that check in v14 [0] and forcing a MEMORY_FAULT_EXIT. I 
thought we didn't need it with in-place conversion, but looks like that was
wrong call.


[0] 
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260513131757.116630-30-steven.price@arm.com/


> 
> I wonder whether we can have any races with either of these if multiple
> vCPUs toggle the RIPAS state between RAM and EMPTY and we need both
> places (the RIPAS_CHANGE exit and the actual stage 2 fault).
> 
>> But, the KVM needs to invoke the
>> RMI_RTT_SET_RIPAS in the context of the "vcpu", which we don't have
>> from the "kvm" context. I guess we can fix it by running through the
>> vcpus and find the matching one with the "ipa" range and the "ripas".
> 
> Or multiple vcpus? Does the spec allow multiple RIPAS_CHANGE requests
> for the same IPA? If yes, we probably need to clear all.

Ideally, a guest shouldn't pass overlapping requests to the host. Host
could reject either of them, irrespective of the order we got it.

I will get this clarified in the spec.

Cheers
Suzuki





  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-12 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-03 13:43 [PATCH v16 00/45] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 01/45] firmware: arm_rmm: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 02/45] firmware: arm_rmm: Add wrappers for direct RMI calls Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 03/45] firmware: arm_rmm: Check for RMI support at init Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 04/45] firmware: arm_rmm: Configure the RMM with the host's page size Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 05/45] firmware: arm_rmm: Add support for SRO Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 06/45] firmware: arm_rmm: Ensure the RMM has GPT entries for memory Steven Price
2026-08-09  6:42   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 07/45] arm64: mm: Handle Granule Protection Faults (GPFs) Steven Price
2026-08-11 14:44   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-08-11 15:11     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-12 12:42       ` Pavan Kondeti
2026-08-12 13:51         ` Catalin Marinas
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 08/45] KVM: arm64: Include kvm_emulate.h in kvm/arm_psci.h Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 09/45] KVM: arm64: Avoid including linux/kvm_host.h in kvm_pgtable.h Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 10/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Add wrappers for realm related RMIs Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 11/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Check for RMI support at KVM init Steven Price
2026-08-04 14:55   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-04 14:59     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 12/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Check for LPA2 support Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 13/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Define the user ABI Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 14/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Add basic infrastructure for creating a realm Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 15/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Don't expose unsupported capabilities for realm guests Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 16/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Allow passing the machine type in KVM creation Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 17/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Tear down RTTs Steven Price
2026-08-03 22:29   ` Alper Gun
2026-08-04 12:16     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-11 14:51       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 18/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Allocate and free RECs to match vCPUs Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 19/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Support the VGIC in realms Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 20/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Support timers in realm RECs Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 21/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Handle realm enter/exit Steven Price
2026-08-04  8:57   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-04 13:36   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-10  8:03   ` Kohei Enju
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 22/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Handle RMI_EXIT_RIPAS_CHANGE Steven Price
2026-08-05 15:59   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-06  8:42     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 23/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Handle realm MMIO emulation Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 24/45] KVM: arm64: Expose support for private memory Steven Price
2026-08-05 16:02   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 10:12     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 25/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Create the realm descriptor Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 26/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Activate realms on first vCPU run Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 27/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Allow populating initial contents Steven Price
2026-08-06 22:43   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 10:58     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 28/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Set RIPAS of initial memslots Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 29/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Support runtime faulting of memory Steven Price
2026-08-06 23:11   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-11 15:42   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-08-12  9:01     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-12 14:06       ` Catalin Marinas
2026-08-12 15:40         ` Suzuki K Poulose [this message]
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 30/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Handle realm vCPU load Steven Price
2026-08-10 14:46   ` Kohei Enju
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 31/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Validate register access for Realm VMs Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 32/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Handle Realm PSCI requests Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 33/45] KVM: arm64: WARN on injected undef exceptions Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 34/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Allow userspace to inject aborts Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 35/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Support RSI_HOST_CALL Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 36/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Allow checking SVE on VM instance Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 37/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Prevent Device mappings for realms Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 38/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Propagate breakpoint and watchpoint counts to userspace Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 39/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Set breakpoint parameters through SET_ONE_REG Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 40/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Propagate max SVE vector length from the RMM Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 41/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Configure max SVE vector length for a Realm Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 42/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Provide register list for unfinalized RECs Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:43 ` [PATCH v16 43/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Provide an accurate register list Steven Price
2026-08-03 13:44 ` [PATCH v16 44/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Require ICH_HCR_EL2.TDIR for realms Steven Price
2026-08-10  4:58   ` Kohei Enju
2026-08-10  9:41     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-08-03 13:44 ` [PATCH v16 45/45] KVM: arm64: CCA: Enable realms to be created Steven Price
2026-08-03 15:01 ` [PATCH v16 00/45] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Marc Zyngier
2026-08-03 15:06   ` Steven Price
2026-08-03 15:20     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-08-03 15:45       ` Steven Price
2026-08-04 14:24 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-06 22:05 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-11  4:44   ` Gavin Shan
2026-08-11 11:12     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-12  3:07       ` Gavin Shan
2026-08-12  3:25         ` Alper Gun
2026-08-12  6:04           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-12 10:35             ` Gavin Shan
2026-08-12 12:18               ` Suzuki K Poulose

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