From: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>
To: Jinjie Ruan <ruanjinjie@huawei.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, peterz@infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 05/16] arm64: ptrace: Move rseq_syscall() before audit_syscall_exit()
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 15:53:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <647fe97e-e8c1-464f-bbc7-39dac0bda6b2@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6ff5d366-3a2d-089b-5ac7-e40b81a8664c@huawei.com>
On 28/01/2026 02:09, Jinjie Ruan wrote:
>
> On 2026/1/27 23:06, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
>> On 27/01/2026 12:34, Jinjie Ruan wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> I'm also concerned that rseq_debug_update_user_cs()
>>>>> operates on instruction_pointer(regs) which is something that can be
>>>>> chaned by ptrace.
>>>> Isn't that true regardless of where rseq_syscall() is called on the
>>>> syscall exit path, though?
>>> My understanding is that if instruction_pointer(regs) is hijacked and
>>> modified via ptrace at the syscall exit (ptrace_report_syscall_exit()),
>>> this modification will not be observed by rseq. Specifically, in the
>>> generic entry syscall exit path, rseq_syscall() is unable to detect such
>>> a PC modification.
>> Good point. So concretely that means that currently on arm64, one could
>> make the rseq debug check pass/fail by using the syscall exit trap to
>> modify PC. OTOH this is impossible with generic entry because the rseq
>> check is performed first. I'm not sure this is a feature anyone has even
>> noticed, but it is a user-visible change indeed.
> After digging into the ptrace code, I found that ptrace does not modify
> instruction_pointer(regs) on the syscall exit path; it only changes the
> return value as below.
> Therefore, if my understanding is correct, Will's concern does not apply
> here.
>
> ptrace_set_syscall_info()
> -> ptrace_set_syscall_info_exit()
> -> syscall_set_return_value(child, regs, 0, rval)
I'm not following, how is that related to the call to
ptrace_report_syscall_exit()? That eventually results in a call to
ptrace_stop() (via ptrace_notify()), which synchronously causes the
tracee to sleep and allows the tracer to issue ptrace commands, e.g.
setting PC.
- Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-28 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-22 11:47 [PATCH v10 00/16] arm64: entry: Convert to Generic Entry Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 01/16] arm64: Remove unused _TIF_WORK_MASK Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 02/16] arm64/ptrace: Split report_syscall() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 03/16] arm64/ptrace: Return early for ptrace_report_syscall_entry() error Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 04/16] arm64/ptrace: Refactor syscall_trace_enter/exit() Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-26 16:42 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-27 3:01 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-27 9:43 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-01-27 11:02 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-27 14:54 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 05/16] arm64: ptrace: Move rseq_syscall() before audit_syscall_exit() Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-26 19:02 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-27 9:44 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-01-27 11:34 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-27 15:06 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-01-28 1:09 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-28 14:53 ` Kevin Brodsky [this message]
2026-01-29 3:50 ` Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 06/16] arm64: syscall: Rework el0_svc_common() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 07/16] arm64/ptrace: Not check _TIF_SECCOMP/SYSCALL_EMU for syscall_exit_work() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 08/16] arm64/ptrace: Do not report_syscall_exit() for PTRACE_SYSEMU_SINGLESTEP Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 09/16] arm64/ptrace: Expand secure_computing() in place Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 10/16] arm64/ptrace: Use syscall_get_arguments() helper Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 11/16] entry: Split syscall_exit_to_user_mode_work() for arch reuse Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-29 18:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-31 1:35 ` Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 12/16] entry: Add arch_ptrace_report_syscall_entry/exit() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 13/16] arm64: entry: Convert to generic entry Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 14/16] arm64: Inline el0_svc_common() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 15/16] entry: Inline syscall_exit_work() and syscall_trace_enter() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 16/16] selftests: sud_test: Support aarch64 Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-19 2:02 ` [PATCH v10 00/16] arm64: entry: Convert to Generic Entry Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-27 11:39 ` Will Deacon
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