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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Jinjie Ruan <ruanjinjie@huawei.com>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, ldv@strace.io, song@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 05/16] arm64: ptrace: Move rseq_syscall() before audit_syscall_exit()
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 19:02:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXe6W69Esd1NLEU8@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251222114737.1334364-6-ruanjinjie@huawei.com>

On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 07:47:26PM +0800, Jinjie Ruan wrote:
> commit a9f3a74a29af ("entry: Provide generic syscall exit function")
> introduce generic syscall exit function and call rseq_syscall()
> before audit_syscall_exit() and arch_syscall_exit_tracehook().
> 
> And commit b74406f37737 ("arm: Add syscall detection for restartable
> sequences") add rseq support for arm32, which also call rseq_syscall()
> before audit_syscall_exit() and tracehook_report_syscall().
> 
> However, commit 409d5db49867c ("arm64: rseq: Implement backend rseq
> calls and select HAVE_RSEQ") implement arm64 rseq and call
> rseq_syscall() after audit_syscall_exit() and tracehook_report_syscall().
> 
> So compared to the generic entry and arm32 code, arm64 terminates
> the process a bit later if the syscall is issued within
> a restartable sequence.

Given that signals are processed until later, is this actually true?

> But as commit b74406f37737 ("arm: Add syscall detection for restartable
> sequences") said, syscalls are not allowed inside restartable sequences,
> so should call rseq_syscall() at the very beginning of system call
> exiting path for CONFIG_DEBUG_RSEQ=y kernel. This could help us to detect
> whether there is a syscall issued inside restartable sequences.
> 
> It makes sense to raise SIGSEGV via rseq_syscall() before auditing
> and ptrace syscall exit, because this guarantees that the process is
> already in an error state with SIGSEGV pending when those later steps
> run. Although it makes no practical difference to signal delivery (signals
> are processed at the very end in arm64_exit_to_user_mode()), the ordering
> is more logical: detect and flag the error first, then proceed with
> the remaining work.
> 
> To make it more reasonable and in preparation for moving arm64 over to
> the generic entry code, move rseq_syscall() ahead before
> audit_syscall_exit().

I've been struggling a bit to see how this helps to align with the
generic code. I'm also concerned that rseq_debug_update_user_cs()
operates on instruction_pointer(regs) which is something that can be
chaned by ptrace.

So, I'm not saying this is wrong, but it feels like a user-visible
change that needs better justification.

Will


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-26 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-22 11:47 [PATCH v10 00/16] arm64: entry: Convert to Generic Entry Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 01/16] arm64: Remove unused _TIF_WORK_MASK Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 02/16] arm64/ptrace: Split report_syscall() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 03/16] arm64/ptrace: Return early for ptrace_report_syscall_entry() error Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 04/16] arm64/ptrace: Refactor syscall_trace_enter/exit() Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-26 16:42   ` Will Deacon
2026-01-27  3:01     ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-27  9:43       ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-01-27 11:02         ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-27 14:54           ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 05/16] arm64: ptrace: Move rseq_syscall() before audit_syscall_exit() Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-26 19:02   ` Will Deacon [this message]
2026-01-27  9:44     ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-01-27 11:34       ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-27 15:06         ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-01-28  1:09           ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-28 14:53             ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-01-29  3:50               ` Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 06/16] arm64: syscall: Rework el0_svc_common() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 07/16] arm64/ptrace: Not check _TIF_SECCOMP/SYSCALL_EMU for syscall_exit_work() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 08/16] arm64/ptrace: Do not report_syscall_exit() for PTRACE_SYSEMU_SINGLESTEP Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 09/16] arm64/ptrace: Expand secure_computing() in place Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 10/16] arm64/ptrace: Use syscall_get_arguments() helper Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 11/16] entry: Split syscall_exit_to_user_mode_work() for arch reuse Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-29 18:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-31  1:35     ` Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 12/16] entry: Add arch_ptrace_report_syscall_entry/exit() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 13/16] arm64: entry: Convert to generic entry Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 14/16] arm64: Inline el0_svc_common() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 15/16] entry: Inline syscall_exit_work() and syscall_trace_enter() Jinjie Ruan
2025-12-22 11:47 ` [PATCH v10 16/16] selftests: sud_test: Support aarch64 Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-19  2:02 ` [PATCH v10 00/16] arm64: entry: Convert to Generic Entry Jinjie Ruan
2026-01-27 11:39 ` Will Deacon

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