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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Madhavan Srinivasan" <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Bogendoerfer" <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	"Vincenzo Frascino" <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] x86/vdso: Respect COMPAT_32BIT_TIME
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2026 22:27:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d92f424c-9aee-417e-899e-3a0002a80f4a@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56591FD5-0DD0-4117-BC7B-4565E3F6512E@zytor.com>

On Tue, Mar 3, 2026, at 22:00, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On March 3, 2026 12:50:33 PM PST, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>>On Tue, Mar 3, 2026, at 19:11, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>> A bigger question is whether or not we should omit these from the vDSO
>>> completely (potentially causing link failures) or replace them with stubs
>>> returning -ENOSYS.
>>
>>I see no harm in keeping gettimeofday() in the vdso when
>>COMPAT_32BIT_TIME is turned on, as existing code will call it
>>no matter whether it's in the vdso or the syscall.
>
> That wasn't the point. The point was what kind of error behavior we want.

I see. I would argue here that a link failure is actually the best
case then: the entire point of CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME=n is to
enforce the fail-early case, as opposed to silent data corruption
after (now) 12 years of operation.

I don't think there is an actual link failure here, as dl_vdso_vsym()
resolves it at runtime by glibc (when using time32), while musl
doesn't use __vdso_gettimeofday at all.

      Arnd


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-27  6:57 [PATCH 0/7] vDSO: Respect COMPAT_32BIT_TIME Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  6:57 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86/vdso: " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  8:51   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-27  8:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-27  9:34       ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-03 18:11         ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-03-03 20:50           ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-03-03 21:00             ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-03-03 21:27               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2026-03-03 21:36                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-04-10  7:24             ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-04-13 15:59               ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-13 16:13                 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-04-13 16:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-14 10:16                     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-04  7:35           ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-04 18:30             ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-03-05  9:24               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-05 23:57                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-03-06  9:42                   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-06 20:52                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-02-27  6:57 ` [PATCH 2/7] ARM: VDSO: " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  6:57 ` [PATCH 3/7] arm64: vdso32: " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  6:57 ` [PATCH 4/7] powerpc/vdso: " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  6:57 ` [PATCH 5/7] MIPS: VDSO: Drop kconfig MIPS_CLOCK_VSYSCALL Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  8:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-27  9:31     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27 10:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-27 10:17         ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  6:57 ` [PATCH 6/7] MIPS: VDSO: Respect COMPAT_32BIT_TIME Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  6:57 ` [PATCH 7/7] vdso/gettimeofday: Verify COMPAT_32BIT_TIME interactions Thomas Weißschuh
2026-02-27  8:49   ` Arnd Bergmann

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