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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] audit: log join and part events to the read-only multicast log socket
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:34:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2336639.NQ575CiUBH@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141022012405.GP15532@madcap2.tricolour.ca>

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 09:24:05 PM Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> On 14/10/21, Paul Moore wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 03:56:10 PM Steve Grubb wrote:
> > > audit_log_task_info logs too much information for typical use. There are
> > > times when you might want to know everything about what's connecting.
> > > But in this case, we don't need anything about groups, saved uids,
> > > fsuid, or ppid.
> > > 
> > > Its a shame we don't have a audit_log_task_info_light function which
> > > only
> > > records:
> > > 
> > > pid= auid= uid= subj= comm= exe=  ses= tty=
> > 
> > This is getting back to my earlier concerns/questions about field
> > ordering, or at the very least I'm going to hijack this conversation and
> > steer it towards field ordering ;)
> 
> Well, I've already been pushing it that way because it interferes with
> any sort of refactoring that needs to be done to simplify and clean up
> the kernel log code.

There really are worse problems to solve. Also, all this changing things will 
keep me from adding new analytical capabilities to the audit tools because I 
continue to have to re-do the bottom layers instead of progress towards making 
things better for admins.


> > Before we go to much farther, I'd really like us to agree that ordering is
> > not important, can we do that?  As a follow up, what do we need to do to
> > make that happen in the userspace tools?
> 
> At the very least, as I've suggested, agree on at least one more order,
> a canonical one, that can provide a much more firm guide how to present
> the keywords so that we're not stuck with an arbitrary order that turns
> out not to make sense for some reason or another.

I think we can create the audit_log_task_info_lite function and use it for 
your new events.

-Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-22 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-07 18:23 [RFC][PATCH] audit: log join and part events to the read-only multicast log socket Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-07 19:03 ` Eric Paris
2014-10-07 19:39   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-07 22:06     ` Paul Moore
2014-10-11 15:42       ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-11 20:00         ` Paul Moore
2014-10-21 16:41     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-21 19:56   ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-21 21:08     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-21 21:40       ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-29 20:23         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-21 22:30       ` Eric Paris
2014-10-21 23:14         ` Paul Moore
2014-10-22  1:18         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-22 14:30         ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-21 22:30     ` Paul Moore
2014-10-22  1:24       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-22 13:34         ` Paul Moore
2014-10-29 21:09           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-22 14:34         ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2014-10-22 14:25       ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-22 14:30         ` Eric Paris
2014-10-22 14:36           ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-22 15:08             ` Eric Paris
2014-10-22 15:12         ` Eric Paris
2014-10-22 15:51           ` LC Bruzenak
2014-10-22 16:24             ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-22 18:18             ` Eric Paris
2014-10-22 19:36               ` LC Bruzenak
2014-10-22 20:00               ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-22 15:28         ` Paul Moore
2014-10-22 17:56           ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-22 20:06             ` Paul Moore
2014-10-22 20:34               ` LC Bruzenak
2014-10-22 20:44                 ` Paul Moore
2014-10-22 21:11                   ` LC Bruzenak
2014-10-22 21:29                     ` Paul Moore
2014-10-23 14:19                       ` LC Bruzenak
2014-10-23 19:08                         ` Paul Moore
2014-10-22 20:39               ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-22 21:00                 ` Paul Moore
2014-10-22 21:18                   ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-23 19:15                     ` Paul Moore
2014-10-30 14:55                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-30 14:48             ` Typo in AUDIT_FEATURE_CHANGE events [was: Re: [RFC][PATCH] audit: log join and part events to the read-only multicast log socket] Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-30 15:10               ` Steve Grubb
2014-10-30 15:23                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-10-29 21:38         ` [RFC][PATCH] audit: log join and part events to the read-only multicast log socket Richard Guy Briggs

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