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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	nbd@other.debian.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	usb-storage@lists.one-eyed-alien.net,
	Johannes Thumshirn <johannes.thumshirn@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/11] block: fix queue freeze vs limits lock order in sysfs store methods
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:33:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250110093311.GA9083@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8cfe7690-0101-42e7-ba97-6c6b717c4706@oracle.com>

On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 01:07:47PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
> Do you mean that the sysfs_lock could be removed in future? I would have 
> thought that queue limits lock could be used for the same thing, but I am 
> probably failing to see some lock nesting/ordering issues...

More or less.  Think about it: what does it even try to protect?

Readіng/writing sysfs files vs itself and file removal it serialized by
sysfs/kernfs internally.

Any information tweaked in sysfs usually also has other places that can
modify it.  So we'll need a lock independent of sysfs for that anyway.
A big part, buy by far all of that is covered by limits_lock.

Serializing creating/removing sysfs attribues is supposed to be
serialized using sysfs_dir_lock, although that needs a careful audit.

It's also used to serialize a few debugfs things, but we'll need to look
carefully for what exactly and switch that over to debugfs_mutex or
something new.

And then there's a bunch of misc cruft that also needs a careful look.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-10  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-09  5:57 fix queue freeze and limit locking order v3 Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 01/11] block: fix docs for freezing of queue limits updates Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: add a queue_limits_commit_update_frozen helper Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09 11:33   ` John Garry
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 03/11] block: check BLK_FEAT_POLL under q_usage_count Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  8:14   ` Ming Lei
2025-01-09  9:03   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 04/11] block: don't update BLK_FEAT_POLL in __blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  8:16   ` Ming Lei
2025-01-09  9:01   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 05/11] block: add a store_limit operations for sysfs entries Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 06/11] block: fix queue freeze vs limits lock order in sysfs store methods Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09 13:07   ` John Garry
2025-01-10  9:33     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 07/11] nvme: fix queue freeze vs limits lock order Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 08/11] nbd: " Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 09/11] usb-storage: " Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 10/11] loop: refactor queue limits updates Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  9:11   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-01-09  5:57 ` [PATCH 11/11] loop: fix queue freeze vs limits lock order Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09 14:57 ` fix queue freeze and limit locking order v3 Martin K. Petersen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-01-10  5:47 fix queue freeze and limit locking order v4 Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-10  5:47 ` [PATCH 06/11] block: fix queue freeze vs limits lock order in sysfs store methods Christoph Hellwig

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