[Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Marian Gasparovic]

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Hi all,
I have i-Tec USB Dongle with Broadcom chip connected
to my notebook with Debian Woody. I am able to
establish bluetooth connection to my Siemens S55
mobile. After I start pppd for GPRS access to Internet
I get connected. I can ping any server for as long as
I want. But when I open any web page under Konqueror
or try ping -f, after couple of seconds (10-20) I
loose connection. First I see bluetooth going away on
mobil display, then gprs disconnect and after a minute
pppd finds it out too. Any suggestions where to look ?
I tried it with several notebooks, usb bluetooth
devices and mobiles and only this i-Tec USB Dongle
makes troubles. Under Windows XP it works without a
problem.
Thank you a lot


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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi Marian,

> I have i-Tec USB Dongle with Broadcom chip connected
> to my notebook with Debian Woody. I am able to
> establish bluetooth connection to my Siemens S55
> mobile. After I start pppd for GPRS access to Internet
> I get connected. I can ping any server for as long as
> I want. But when I open any web page under Konqueror
> or try ping -f, after couple of seconds (10-20) I
> loose connection. First I see bluetooth going away on
> mobil display, then gprs disconnect and after a minute
> pppd finds it out too. Any suggestions where to look ?
> I tried it with several notebooks, usb bluetooth
> devices and mobiles and only this i-Tec USB Dongle
> makes troubles. Under Windows XP it works without a
> problem.

this can be a dongle problem, because the dongle contains a Broadcom
chip and we already know that under some weird circumstances this is
buggy. But actually I think that your PPP setting are not correct for a
GPRS dialin. Check the some GPRS+PPP HOWTO's.

If you really want to be sure that this is no Bluetooth problem you must
run "hcidump -w <file>" as root and send us the resulting dump file.

Regards

Marcel




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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Fredrik Hallgarde]

To return the discussion to the list I repost my reply to Marian here.
/Fredrik

Quoting Marian Gasparovic <marosg@yahoo.com>:

> Fredrik, you are right, I am on 2.4.25. I will try to
> switch.
>=20
> Marian
>=20
> --- Fredrik Hallgarde <bluez@tedde.nu> wrote:
> > Hi Marian,
> >=20
> > > > I have i-Tec USB Dongle with Broadcom chip
> > connected
> > > > to my notebook with Debian Woody. I am able to
> > > > establish bluetooth connection to my Siemens S55
> > > > mobile. After I start pppd for GPRS access to
> > Internet
> > > > I get connected. I can ping any server for as
> > long as
> > > > I want. But when I open any web page under
> > Konqueror
> > > > or try ping -f, after couple of seconds (10-20)
> > I
> > > > loose connection. First I see bluetooth going
> > away on
> > > > mobil display, then gprs disconnect and after a
> > minute
> > > > pppd finds it out too. Any suggestions where to
> > look ?
> > > > I tried it with several notebooks, usb bluetooth
> > > > devices and mobiles and only this i-Tec USB
> > Dongle
> > > > makes troubles. Under Windows XP it works
> > without a
> > > > problem.
> > >=20
> > > this can be a dongle problem, because the dongle
> > contains a Broadcom
> > > chip and we already know that under some weird
> > circumstances this is
> > > buggy. But actually I think that your PPP setting
> > are not correct for a
> > > GPRS dialin. Check the some GPRS+PPP HOWTO's.
> >=20
> > Even though I won't dispute Marcel's knowledge about
> > the chip I like to share my
> > experience with Bluetooth/GPRS.
> >=20
> > I ran into a similar problem using a Broadcom-based
> > IOGear USB Dongle and a NEC
> > e606 3G a couple of months ago. All went well for
> > maybe 30sec, after that nothing.
> > I eventually solved it by switching usb module used
> > in the 2.4.21 kernel (i.e.
> > not bluez but the overall usb-module).=20
> > You're not telling us which kernel you are running
> > but assuming a 2.4.x you
> > should have at least one other module to try.
> >=20
> > After that I never had any trouble using
> > Bluetooth/3G to stay connected.
> >=20
> > /Fredrik
>=20
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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Marian Gasparovic]

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Fredrik, I looked in .config and I don't know what to
change, can somebody here help ? I include both USB
and Bluetooth sections. It is 2.4.25-mh3
Thank you in advance
Marian
#
# USB support
#
CONFIG_USB=y
CONFIG_USB_DEBUG=y
# CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS is not set
# CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set
# CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD is not set
CONFIG_USB_UHCI_ALT=y
# CONFIG_USB_OHCI is not set
# CONFIG_USB_SL811HS_ALT is not set
# CONFIG_USB_SL811HS is not set
# CONFIG_USB_AUDIO is not set
# CONFIG_USB_EMI26 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_MIDI is not set
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DATAFAB is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_FREECOM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_ISD200 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DPCM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_HP8200e is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR09 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR55 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_JUMPSHOT is not set
# CONFIG_USB_ACM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_PRINTER is not set
# CONFIG_USB_HID is not set
# CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT is not set
# CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV is not set
# CONFIG_USB_KBD is not set
# CONFIG_USB_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set
# CONFIG_USB_WACOM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_KBTAB is not set
# CONFIG_USB_POWERMATE is not set
# CONFIG_USB_DC2XX is not set
# CONFIG_USB_MDC800 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_SCANNER is not set
# CONFIG_USB_MICROTEK is not set
# CONFIG_USB_HPUSBSCSI is not set
# CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS is not set
# CONFIG_USB_RTL8150 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_KAWETH is not set
# CONFIG_USB_CATC is not set
# CONFIG_USB_CDCETHER is not set
# CONFIG_USB_USBNET is not set
# CONFIG_USB_USS720 is not set

#
# USB Serial Converter support
#
# CONFIG_USB_SERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_USB_RIO500 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_AUERSWALD is not set
# CONFIG_USB_TIGL is not set
# CONFIG_USB_BRLVGER is not set
# CONFIG_USB_LCD is not set

#
# Support for USB gadgets
#
# CONFIG_USB_GADGET is not set

#
# Bluetooth support
#
CONFIG_BLUEZ=y
CONFIG_BLUEZ_L2CAP=y
CONFIG_BLUEZ_SCO=y
CONFIG_BLUEZ_RFCOMM=y
CONFIG_BLUEZ_RFCOMM_TTY=y
CONFIG_BLUEZ_BNEP=y
CONFIG_BLUEZ_BNEP_MC_FILTER=y
CONFIG_BLUEZ_BNEP_PROTO_FILTER=y

#
# Bluetooth device drivers
#
CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIUSB=y
# CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIUSB_SCO is not set
# CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIUART is not set
# CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIBFUSB is not set
# CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIDTL1 is not set
# CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIBT3C is not set
# CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIBLUECARD is not set
# CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIBTUART is not set
# CONFIG_BLUEZ_HCIVHCI is not set


--- Fredrik Hallgarde <bluez@tedde.nu> wrote:
> To return the discussion to the list I repost my
> reply to Marian here.
> /Fredrik
> 
> Quoting Marian Gasparovic <marosg@yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Fredrik, you are right, I am on 2.4.25. I will try
> to
> > switch.
> > 
> > Marian
> > 
> > --- Fredrik Hallgarde <bluez@tedde.nu> wrote:
> > > Hi Marian,
> > > 
> > > > > I have i-Tec USB Dongle with Broadcom chip
> > > connected
> > > > > to my notebook with Debian Woody. I am able
> to
> > > > > establish bluetooth connection to my Siemens
> S55
> > > > > mobile. After I start pppd for GPRS access
> to
> > > Internet
> > > > > I get connected. I can ping any server for
> as
> > > long as
> > > > > I want. But when I open any web page under
> > > Konqueror
> > > > > or try ping -f, after couple of seconds
> (10-20)
> > > I
> > > > > loose connection. First I see bluetooth
> going
> > > away on
> > > > > mobil display, then gprs disconnect and
> after a
> > > minute
> > > > > pppd finds it out too. Any suggestions where
> to
> > > look ?
> > > > > I tried it with several notebooks, usb
> bluetooth
> > > > > devices and mobiles and only this i-Tec USB
> > > Dongle
> > > > > makes troubles. Under Windows XP it works
> > > without a
> > > > > problem.
> > > > 
> > > > this can be a dongle problem, because the
> dongle
> > > contains a Broadcom
> > > > chip and we already know that under some weird
> > > circumstances this is
> > > > buggy. But actually I think that your PPP
> setting
> > > are not correct for a
> > > > GPRS dialin. Check the some GPRS+PPP HOWTO's.
> > > 
> > > Even though I won't dispute Marcel's knowledge
> about
> > > the chip I like to share my
> > > experience with Bluetooth/GPRS.
> > > 
> > > I ran into a similar problem using a
> Broadcom-based
> > > IOGear USB Dongle and a NEC
> > > e606 3G a couple of months ago. All went well
> for
> > > maybe 30sec, after that nothing.
> > > I eventually solved it by switching usb module
> used
> > > in the 2.4.21 kernel (i.e.
> > > not bluez but the overall usb-module). 
> > > You're not telling us which kernel you are
> running
> > > but assuming a 2.4.x you
> > > should have at least one other module to try.
> > > 
> > > After that I never had any trouble using
> > > Bluetooth/3G to stay connected.
> > > 
> > > /Fredrik
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Fredrik Hallgarde]

Hi,

> Fredrik, I looked in .config and I don't know what to
> change, can somebody here help ? I include both USB
> and Bluetooth sections. It is 2.4.25-mh3
> Thank you in advance
> Marian

> # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD is not set
> CONFIG_USB_UHCI_ALT=y
> # CONFIG_USB_OHCI is not set

Unfortunately I don't have access to that machine right now but IIRC I tried
using EHCI or OHCI instead of UHCI. I can verify that tonight and post more info
tonight (if my cable works) or tomorrow (New York time)
Since you are using USB debugging, are you getting any errors or similar?
Does other Bluetooth connections work?

/Fredrik


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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Marian Gasparovic]

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Marcel,
--- Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org> wrote:
> Hi Marian,
> 
> > I have i-Tec USB Dongle with Broadcom chip
> connected
> > to my notebook with Debian Woody. I am able to
> > establish bluetooth connection to my Siemens S55
> > mobile. After I start pppd for GPRS access to
> Internet
> > I get connected. I can ping any server for as long
> as
> > I want. But when I open any web page under
> Konqueror
> > or try ping -f, after couple of seconds (10-20) I
> > loose connection. First I see bluetooth going away
> on
> > mobil display, then gprs disconnect and after a
> minute
> > pppd finds it out too. Any suggestions where to
> look ?
> > I tried it with several notebooks, usb bluetooth
> > devices and mobiles and only this i-Tec USB Dongle
> > makes troubles. Under Windows XP it works without
> a
> > problem.
> 
> this can be a dongle problem, because the dongle
> contains a Broadcom
> chip and we already know that under some weird
> circumstances this is
> buggy. But actually I think that your PPP setting
> are not correct for a
> GPRS dialin. Check the some GPRS+PPP HOWTO's.
> 
> If you really want to be sure that this is no
> Bluetooth problem you must
> run "hcidump -w <file>" as root and send us the
> resulting dump file.
> 
now it is very strange waht I see. First I tried some
experiments with uhci, uhci(je) and ohci, nothing
helped. Then I tried hcidump -w and I was able to surf
half an hour without a problem !!! Then I restarted a
computer, surfing worked, but I was aborted after
several minutes. Now I have hcidump output I hope you
will find something there. And another thing - when I
restart my notebook, I have to restart bluez-utils and
bluez-sdp before I can connect, otherwise pppd doesn't
connect with /dev/rfcomm0:connection refused. I even
attach my ppp chatscript and peer config files.
Any help ?
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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Marian Gasparovic]

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Fredrik,
--- Fredrik Hallgarde <bluez@tedde.nu> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Fredrik, I looked in .config and I don't know what
> to
> > change, can somebody here help ? I include both
> USB
> > and Bluetooth sections. It is 2.4.25-mh3
> > Thank you in advance
> > Marian
> 
> > # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD is not set
> > CONFIG_USB_UHCI_ALT=y
> > # CONFIG_USB_OHCI is not set
> 
> Unfortunately I don't have access to that machine
> right now but IIRC I tried
> using EHCI or OHCI instead of UHCI. I can verify
> that tonight and post more info
> tonight (if my cable works) or tomorrow (New York
> time)
> Since you are using USB debugging, are you getting
> any errors or similar?
> Does other Bluetooth connections work?

I am still interested in your config although I made
some progress.
I don't get any error messages and I don't have any
other Bluetooth connections. But I tried my setup with
different usb dongle and everything worked fine so
that is why I think there is a problem with bluetooth
driver. But I may be wrong as I am in no way exeprt in
this area.
Marian


	
		
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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi Marian,

> now it is very strange waht I see. First I tried some
> experiments with uhci, uhci(je) and ohci, nothing
> helped. Then I tried hcidump -w and I was able to surf
> half an hour without a problem !!! Then I restarted a
> computer, surfing worked, but I was aborted after
> several minutes. Now I have hcidump output I hope you
> will find something there. And another thing - when I
> restart my notebook, I have to restart bluez-utils and
> bluez-sdp before I can connect, otherwise pppd doesn't
> connect with /dev/rfcomm0:connection refused. I even
> attach my ppp chatscript and peer config files.

after getting the full dump the important part is this

	> ACL data: handle 0x0006 flags 0x01 dlen 10
	    L2CAP(d): cid 0x40 len 329 [psm 3]
	      RFCOMM(d): UIH: cr 0 dlci 2 pf 1 ilen 323 fcs 0x5c 
	> HCI Event: Disconn Complete(0x05) plen 4
	  00 06 00 22 

It is not a PPP error, because the remote device (your phone)
disconnects the ACL link with "LMP Response Timeout" error. Actually
this is because the Broadcom dongle has a buggy link manager or your
phone needs a firmware update. However this is a firmware problem in one
of your two device and we can actually do nothing to fix it.

Regards

Marcel




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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Marian Gasparovic]

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Now a question I hate to ask : How can it work under
XP ? It works there without a problem.
Marian

--- Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org> wrote:
> Hi Marian,
> 
> > now it is very strange waht I see. First I tried
> some
> > experiments with uhci, uhci(je) and ohci, nothing
> > helped. Then I tried hcidump -w and I was able to
> surf
> > half an hour without a problem !!! Then I
> restarted a
> > computer, surfing worked, but I was aborted after
> > several minutes. Now I have hcidump output I hope
> you
> > will find something there. And another thing -
> when I
> > restart my notebook, I have to restart bluez-utils
> and
> > bluez-sdp before I can connect, otherwise pppd
> doesn't
> > connect with /dev/rfcomm0:connection refused. I
> even
> > attach my ppp chatscript and peer config files.
> 
> after getting the full dump the important part is
> this
> 
> 	> ACL data: handle 0x0006 flags 0x01 dlen 10
> 	    L2CAP(d): cid 0x40 len 329 [psm 3]
> 	      RFCOMM(d): UIH: cr 0 dlci 2 pf 1 ilen 323 fcs
> 0x5c 
> 	> HCI Event: Disconn Complete(0x05) plen 4
> 	  00 06 00 22 
> 
> It is not a PPP error, because the remote device
> (your phone)
> disconnects the ACL link with "LMP Response Timeout"
> error. Actually
> this is because the Broadcom dongle has a buggy link
> manager or your
> phone needs a firmware update. However this is a
> firmware problem in one
> of your two device and we can actually do nothing to
> fix it.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Marcel
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth/gprs problem

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi Marian,

> Now a question I hate to ask : How can it work under
> XP ? It works there without a problem.

I think it uses another MTU on L2CAP level or the granting of credits on
the RFCOMM layer is done in another way which actually may results in a
slower connection, but also may not causes a link manager problem.

The point is that the phone detects a LMP response timeout, so I would
say that the phone works correct and the dongle has the problem. But
without a protocol analyser that can sniff LMP I can't tell you anything
more. Try to buy a CSR based dongle and see if the problem still exists.

Regards

Marcel




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[Bluez-users] bluetooth networking

[Marian Gasparovic]

Hi everybody,
Is there anybody out there who can point me to the
right direction, how to implement bluetooth network
between Debian and WXP ? I have found several
fragments of information, but nothing complete.
Thank you a lot.


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Re: [Bluez-users] bluetooth networking

[Michal Semler]

It depends on BT software you use on XP.
Check out pand and dund daemons

Michal

On Monday 10 of May 2004 15:16, Marian Gasparovic wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> Is there anybody out there who can point me to the
> right direction, how to implement bluetooth network
> between Debian and WXP ? I have found several
> fragments of information, but nothing complete.
> Thank you a lot.
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