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* [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
@ 2004-07-22 19:24 Andreas Krause
  2004-07-22 20:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Krause @ 2004-07-22 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bluez-users

Hello,

I would appreciate if someone could help me with the following problem.

I've got a Bluetooth USB Dongle, Vendor ID 0x1131 (ISSC, Integrated System 
Solution Corp.), Product ID 0x1001, Revision 3.115. All drivers load well and 
seamless, device is recognized correctly. hcid and sdpd also load well and 
don't complain. Kernel log is almost silent, no special lines there. However, 
no inqiry and no device scan is possible ("Connection timed out", see below). 
Same hardware _does_ find my bluetooth enabled mobile phone when used under 
Win2k. Any help or any clue?

Thanks in advance!

Here's my config:

Distribution:	Gentoo Linux
Kernel		gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.7-r11
		with patch-2.6.7-mh2
Packages:
sweethome root # epm -qa | grep blue
bluez-utils-2.5
bluez-libs-2.7
bluez-sdp-1.5
bluez-bluefw-1.0
kdebluetooth-20040416
bluez-pan-1.1
bluez-hcidump-1.9
bluez-hciemu-1.0

(bluez-utils-2.7 does not compile:
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..     -Wall -g -O2 -c ciptool.c
sdptool.c: In function `add_handsfree':
sdptool.c:1129: error: `HANDSFREE_SVCLASS_ID' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
sdptool.c:1129: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
sdptool.c:1129: error: for each function it appears in.)
sdptool.c:1135: error: `HANDSFREE_PROFILE_ID' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
sdptool.c:1151: error: `SDP_SUPPORTED_FEATURES' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
sdptool.c: At top level:
sdptool.c:1578: error: `HANDSFREE_SVCLASS_ID' undeclared here (not in a 
function)
)

sweethome root # lsmod | grep [rfcomm,l2cap,hci_usb,bluetooth]
rfcomm                 39196  0
l2cap                  25412  3 rfcomm
hci_usb                13760  1
bluetooth              49028  3 rfcomm,l2cap,hci_usb

sweethome root # hciconfig -a
hci0:   Type: USB
        BD Address: 00:11:67:00:0B:9E ACL MTU: 678:12  SCO MTU: 48:5
        UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN INQUIRY
        RX bytes:384 acl:0 sco:0 events:17 errors:0
        TX bytes:317 acl:0 sco:0 commands:17 errors:0
        Features: 0xff 0xff 0x0d 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
        Packet type: DM1 DM3 DM5 DH1 DH3 DH5 HV1 HV2 HV3
        Link policy: HOLD SNIFF PARK
        Link mode: SLAVE ACCEPT
        Name: 'BlueZ (0)'
        Class: 0x000100
        Service Classes: Unspecified
        Device Class: Computer, Uncategorized
        HCI Ver: 1.1 (0x1) HCI Rev: 0x172 LMP Ver: 1.1 (0x1) LMP Subver: 0x172
        Manufacturer: Integrated System Solution Corp. (57)

sweethome root # hcitool dev
Devices:
        hci0    00:11:67:00:0B:9E

sweethome root # hcitool inq
Inquiring ...
Inquiry failed.: Connection timed out
sweethome root # hcitool scan
Scanning ...
Inquiry failed: Connection timed out


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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
  2004-07-22 19:24 [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez? Andreas Krause
@ 2004-07-22 20:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
  2004-07-23  4:49   ` Andreas Krause
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2004-07-22 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Krause; +Cc: BlueZ Mailing List

Hi Andreas,

> I've got a Bluetooth USB Dongle, Vendor ID 0x1131 (ISSC, Integrated System 
> Solution Corp.), Product ID 0x1001, Revision 3.115. All drivers load well and 
> seamless, device is recognized correctly. hcid and sdpd also load well and 
> don't complain. Kernel log is almost silent, no special lines there. However, 
> no inqiry and no device scan is possible ("Connection timed out", see below). 
> Same hardware _does_ find my bluetooth enabled mobile phone when used under 
> Win2k. Any help or any clue?

where do you got these dongle?

> Here's my config:
> 
> Distribution:	Gentoo Linux
> Kernel		gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.7-r11
> 		with patch-2.6.7-mh2
> Packages:
> sweethome root # epm -qa | grep blue
> bluez-utils-2.5
> bluez-libs-2.7
> bluez-sdp-1.5
> bluez-bluefw-1.0
> kdebluetooth-20040416
> bluez-pan-1.1
> bluez-hcidump-1.9
> bluez-hciemu-1.0

you only need bluez-libs-2.8, bluez-utils-2.8 and bluez-hcidump-1.9. The
rest of the BlueZ packages are deprecated and you will run into trouble
installing them.

> (bluez-utils-2.7 does not compile:
> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..     -Wall -g -O2 -c ciptool.c
> sdptool.c: In function `add_handsfree':
> sdptool.c:1129: error: `HANDSFREE_SVCLASS_ID' undeclared (first use in this 
> function)
> sdptool.c:1129: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> sdptool.c:1129: error: for each function it appears in.)
> sdptool.c:1135: error: `HANDSFREE_PROFILE_ID' undeclared (first use in this 
> function)
> sdptool.c:1151: error: `SDP_SUPPORTED_FEATURES' undeclared (first use in this 
> function)
> sdptool.c: At top level:
> sdptool.c:1578: error: `HANDSFREE_SVCLASS_ID' undeclared here (not in a 
> function)
> )

I will need at least bluez-libs-2.7 as written in the ChangeLog.

> sweethome root # hciconfig -a
> hci0:   Type: USB
>         BD Address: 00:11:67:00:0B:9E ACL MTU: 678:12  SCO MTU: 48:5
>         UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN INQUIRY
>         RX bytes:384 acl:0 sco:0 events:17 errors:0
>         TX bytes:317 acl:0 sco:0 commands:17 errors:0
>         Features: 0xff 0xff 0x0d 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
>         Packet type: DM1 DM3 DM5 DH1 DH3 DH5 HV1 HV2 HV3
>         Link policy: HOLD SNIFF PARK
>         Link mode: SLAVE ACCEPT
>         Name: 'BlueZ (0)'
>         Class: 0x000100
>         Service Classes: Unspecified
>         Device Class: Computer, Uncategorized
>         HCI Ver: 1.1 (0x1) HCI Rev: 0x172 LMP Ver: 1.1 (0x1) LMP Subver: 0x172
>         Manufacturer: Integrated System Solution Corp. (57)

Never seen a device from ISSC, but you already run an inquiry. Looks a
little bit weird.

> sweethome root # hcitool inq
> Inquiring ...
> Inquiry failed.: Connection timed out
> sweethome root # hcitool scan
> Scanning ...
> Inquiry failed: Connection timed out

Run "hcidump -x" and show it to us while executing these commands.

Regards

Marcel




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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
  2004-07-22 20:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
@ 2004-07-23  4:49   ` Andreas Krause
  2004-07-23  8:14     ` Marcel Holtmann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Krause @ 2004-07-23  4:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bluez-users

> > I've got a Bluetooth USB Dongle, Vendor ID 0x1131 (ISSC, Integrated
> > System Solution Corp.), Product ID 0x1001, Revision 3.115. 
> where do you got these dongle?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5709740304


> you only need bluez-libs-2.8, bluez-utils-2.8 and bluez-hcidump-1.9. The
> rest of the BlueZ packages are deprecated and you will run into trouble
> installing them.

OK, unmerged all ebuilds and just installed these three from tarball.

hciconfig -a says the same as in my original posting.

> Run "hcidump -x" and show it to us while executing these commands.

The following dump is the output of 'hcidump -x' while running 'hciconfig -a'. 
Running 'hcitool inq' or 'hcitool scan' does not trigger any output from 
'hcidump -x'!

sweethome root # hcidump -x
HCIDump - HCI packet analyzer ver 1.9
device: hci0 snap_len: 1028 filter: 0xffffffff
< HCI Command: Read Local Name (0x03|0x0014) plen 0
> HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 252
  01 14 0C 00 42 6C 75 65 5A 20 28 30 29 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
< HCI Command: Read Class of Device (0x03|0x0023) plen 0
> HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 7
  01 23 0C 00 00 01 00
< HCI Command: Read Local Version Information (0x04|0x0001) plen 0
> HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 12
  01 01 10 00 01 72 01 01 39 00 72 01


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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
  2004-07-23  4:49   ` Andreas Krause
@ 2004-07-23  8:14     ` Marcel Holtmann
  2004-07-23  9:45       ` Andreas Gaufer
       [not found]       ` <200407231230.50970.Andreas.Krause@web.de>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2004-07-23  8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Krause; +Cc: BlueZ Mailing List

Hi Andreas,

> > > I've got a Bluetooth USB Dongle, Vendor ID 0x1131 (ISSC, Integrated
> > > System Solution Corp.), Product ID 0x1001, Revision 3.115. 
> > where do you got these dongle?
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5709740304

is there anyone who will donate one of these?

> hciconfig -a says the same as in my original posting.
> 
> > Run "hcidump -x" and show it to us while executing these commands.
> 
> The following dump is the output of 'hcidump -x' while running 'hciconfig -a'. 
> Running 'hcitool inq' or 'hcitool scan' does not trigger any output from 
> 'hcidump -x'!

That is the problem here, because the kernel thinks that the dongle is
already in inquiry mode and won't start another one. Please stop hcid
and sdpd. Unplug your dongle and replug it. Run "hcidump -x" and then
call "hciconfig hci0 up".

Regards

Marcel





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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
  2004-07-23  8:14     ` Marcel Holtmann
@ 2004-07-23  9:45       ` Andreas Gaufer
  2004-07-23  9:54         ` Marcel Holtmann
       [not found]       ` <200407231230.50970.Andreas.Krause@web.de>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Gaufer @ 2004-07-23  9:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcel Holtmann; +Cc: Andreas.Krause, bluez-users

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:14:39 +0200
Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org> wrote:

> Hi Andreas,
> 
> > > > I've got a Bluetooth USB Dongle, Vendor ID 0x1131 (ISSC,
> > > > Integrated System Solution Corp.), Product ID 0x1001, Revision
> > > > 3.115. where do you got these dongle?
> > 
> > http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5709740304
> 
> is there anyone who will donate one of these?

Hi Marcel,

We will buy one, same adress the sun went to ?

Greetings

Andreas Gaufer

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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
  2004-07-23  9:45       ` Andreas Gaufer
@ 2004-07-23  9:54         ` Marcel Holtmann
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2004-07-23  9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Gaufer; +Cc: Andreas.Krause, BlueZ Mailing List

Hi Andreas,

> > > > > I've got a Bluetooth USB Dongle, Vendor ID 0x1131 (ISSC,
> > > > > Integrated System Solution Corp.), Product ID 0x1001, Revision
> > > > > 3.115. where do you got these dongle?
> > > 
> > > http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5709740304
> > 
> > is there anyone who will donate one of these?
> 
> We will buy one, same adress the sun went to ?

yes. Many thanks.

Regards

Marcel




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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
       [not found]       ` <200407231230.50970.Andreas.Krause@web.de>
@ 2004-07-23 10:41         ` Marcel Holtmann
       [not found]           ` <200407231251.27478.Andreas.Krause@web.de>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2004-07-23 10:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Krause; +Cc: BlueZ Mailing List

Hi Andreas,

> > That is the problem here, because the kernel thinks that the dongle is
> > already in inquiry mode and won't start another one. Please stop hcid
> > and sdpd. Unplug your dongle and replug it. Run "hcidump -x" and then
> > call "hciconfig hci0 up".
> 
> OK that worked.
> Here's the dum while doing "hciconfig hci0 up":
> 
> sweethome root # hcidump -x
> HCIDump - HCI packet analyzer ver 1.9
> device: hci0 snap_len: 1028 filter: 0xffffffff
> < HCI Command: Read Local Supported Features (0x04|0x0003) plen 0
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 12
>   01 03 10 00 FF FF 0D 00 00 00 00 00
> < HCI Command: Read Buffer Size (0x04|0x0005) plen 0
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 11
>   01 05 10 00 A6 02 30 0C 00 05 00
> < HCI Command: Read BD ADDR (0x04|0x0009) plen 0
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 10
>   01 09 10 00 9E 0B 00 67 11 00
> < HCI Command: Read Voice Setting (0x03|0x0025) plen 0
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 6
>   01 25 0C 00 60 00
> < HCI Command: Set Event Filter (0x03|0x0005) plen 2
>   00 00
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 4
>   01 05 0C 00
> < HCI Command: Write Page Timeout (0x03|0x0018) plen 2
>   00 80
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 4
>   01 18 0C 00
> < HCI Command: Write Connection Accept Timeout (0x03|0x0016) plen 2
>   00 7D
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 4
>   01 16 0C 00
> < HCI Command: Write Scan Enable (0x03|0x001a) plen 1
>   03
> > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 4
>   01 1A 0C 00
> 
> 
> And here's the dump for "hcitool inq":
> 
> < HCI Command: Inquiry (0x01|0x0001) plen 5
>   33 8B 9E 08 64
> > HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4
>   00 01 01 04

I miss the inquiry complete event.

Regards

Marcel




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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
       [not found]           ` <200407231251.27478.Andreas.Krause@web.de>
@ 2004-07-23 10:50             ` Marcel Holtmann
  2004-07-23 12:22               ` Bc. Michal Semler
       [not found]               ` <200407231303.45860.Andreas.Krause@web.de>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2004-07-23 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Krause; +Cc: BlueZ Mailing List

Hi Andreas,

> > > And here's the dump for "hcitool inq":
> > > < HCI Command: Inquiry (0x01|0x0001) plen 5
> > >   33 8B 9E 08 64
> > > > HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4
> > >   00 01 01 04
> > 
> > I miss the inquiry complete event.
> 
> There's no other output. 'hcitool scan' terminates with "Inquiry failed: 
> Connection timed out". No other events shown by hcidump. Sorry.

very nice :(

Another buggy Bluetooth chip with a stupid link manager. Is it really so
hard to get a correct HCI implementation before manufacturing end-user
products?

Regards

Marcel




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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
  2004-07-23 10:50             ` Marcel Holtmann
@ 2004-07-23 12:22               ` Bc. Michal Semler
       [not found]               ` <200407231303.45860.Andreas.Krause@web.de>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Bc. Michal Semler @ 2004-07-23 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bluez-users

Marcel,

everything is about money. And paying programmers costs money :(

Michal

Dne p=E1 23. =E8ervence 2004 12:50 Marcel Holtmann napsal(a):
> Hi Andreas,
>
> > > > And here's the dump for "hcitool inq":
> > > > < HCI Command: Inquiry (0x01|0x0001) plen 5
> > > >   33 8B 9E 08 64
> > > >
> > > > > HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4
> > > >
> > > >   00 01 01 04
> > >
> > > I miss the inquiry complete event.
> >
> > There's no other output. 'hcitool scan' terminates with "Inquiry failed:
> > Connection timed out". No other events shown by hcidump. Sorry.
>
> very nice :(
>
> Another buggy Bluetooth chip with a stupid link manager. Is it really so
> hard to get a correct HCI implementation before manufacturing end-user
> products?
>
> Regards
>
> Marcel
>
>
>
>
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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
       [not found]               ` <200407231303.45860.Andreas.Krause@web.de>
@ 2004-07-31 10:31                 ` Marcel Holtmann
  2004-07-31 13:31                   ` Andreas Krause
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2004-07-31 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Krause; +Cc: BlueZ Mailing List

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 459 bytes --]

Hi Andreas,

> > Another buggy Bluetooth chip with a stupid link manager. Is it really so
> > hard to get a correct HCI implementation before manufacturing end-user
> > products?
> 
> That means? Wait until you got one yourself and write a little hack for this 
> buggy chip? ;-)

it looks like that this device needs the HCI_Reset before it can run an
inquiry. Funny is that every other HCI command work without it. Try the
attached patch.

Regards

Marcel


[-- Attachment #2: patch --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 481 bytes --]

===== drivers/bluetooth/hci_usb.c 1.53 vs edited =====
--- 1.53/drivers/bluetooth/hci_usb.c	2004-07-16 12:55:02 +02:00
+++ edited/drivers/bluetooth/hci_usb.c	2004-07-31 12:13:10 +02:00
@@ -98,6 +98,9 @@
 	/* Broadcom BCM2035 */
 	{ USB_DEVICE(0x0a5c, 0x200a), .driver_info = HCI_RESET },
 
+	/* ISSC Bluetooth Adapter v3.1 */
+	{ USB_DEVICE(0x1131, 0x1001), .driver_info = HCI_RESET },
+
 	/* Digianswer device */
 	{ USB_DEVICE(0x08fd, 0x0001), .driver_info = HCI_DIGIANSWER },
 

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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
  2004-07-31 10:31                 ` Marcel Holtmann
@ 2004-07-31 13:31                   ` Andreas Krause
  2004-07-31 17:20                     ` Marcel Holtmann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Krause @ 2004-07-31 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bluez-users

> it looks like that this device needs the HCI_Reset before it can run an
> inquiry. Funny is that every other HCI command work without it. Try the
> attached patch.

Patch works. Thanks! All works as it should.
When will this patch be in the official kernel 2.6 tree?

CU - nak


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* Re: [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez?
  2004-07-31 13:31                   ` Andreas Krause
@ 2004-07-31 17:20                     ` Marcel Holtmann
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2004-07-31 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Krause; +Cc: BlueZ Mailing List

Hi Andreas,

> > it looks like that this device needs the HCI_Reset before it can run an
> > inquiry. Funny is that every other HCI command work without it. Try the
> > attached patch.
> 
> Patch works. Thanks! All works as it should.
> When will this patch be in the official kernel 2.6 tree?

very soon I hope. In the meantime you can use patch-2.6.7-mh4 which
includes this patch and also the BNEP default protocol filters fix.

Regards

Marcel




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2004-07-22 19:24 [Bluez-users] ISSC USB Dongle does not work with current bluez? Andreas Krause
2004-07-22 20:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2004-07-23  4:49   ` Andreas Krause
2004-07-23  8:14     ` Marcel Holtmann
2004-07-23  9:45       ` Andreas Gaufer
2004-07-23  9:54         ` Marcel Holtmann
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