[Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Franck F]

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Hi,

I've been trying to make my embedded bluetooth card work, but it seems i
have a big problem...
Before explaining it, here is my hardware specification:
Dell D830 laptop, and my bluetooth card (running lsusb):
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:8140 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 360 Bluetooth

I have installed bluez-utils, bluez-libs, bluetooth, everything that is seem
to be needed.

Here is what hciconfig give me:
hci0:   Type: USB
        BD Address: 00:1A:6B:8A:xx:xx ACL MTU: 310:10 SCO MTU: 64:8
        UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN
        RX bytes:4134 acl:0 sco:0 events:136 errors:0
        TX bytes:2047 acl:0 sco:0 commands:133 errors:0

So my BT card seems to work ... but when I run a scan or an inq (with
hcitool), nothing is found. Also, the bluetooth led of my laptop is off ...

After doing many test, i was wondering if it was not a hardware problem, so
i have boot to windows to see if my card words. Everything worked fine, the
led was on, the scan showed my phone. Then i reboot on linux, and here is
the thing weird, my bluetooth card was still working (the led was on).

So i start bluetooth daemon (hcid, sdpd), i run a scan, and my phone is
found !!!

The problem seems to be the bluetooth card doesn't "start"/"stop" on linux
(the led story confirms that). So, is there a way to solve this thing ? Have
I done something wrong ?

Thanks
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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi Franck,

> I've been trying to make my embedded bluetooth card work, but it seems
> i have a big problem...
> Before explaining it, here is my hardware specification:
> Dell D830 laptop, and my bluetooth card (running lsusb): 
> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:8140 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 360
> Bluetooth

show me /proc/bus/usb/devices for your card.

> I have installed bluez-utils, bluez-libs, bluetooth, everything that
> is seem to be needed.
> 
> Here is what hciconfig give me: 
> hci0:   Type: USB
>         BD Address: 00:1A:6B:8A:xx:xx ACL MTU: 310:10 SCO MTU: 64:8
>         UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN 
>         RX bytes:4134 acl:0 sco:0 events:136 errors:0
>         TX bytes:2047 acl:0 sco:0 commands:133 errors:0 
> 
> So my BT card seems to work ... but when I run a scan or an inq (with
> hcitool), nothing is found. Also, the bluetooth led of my laptop is
> off ...
> 
> After doing many test, i was wondering if it was not a hardware
> problem, so i have boot to windows to see if my card words. Everything
> worked fine, the led was on, the scan showed my phone. Then i reboot
> on linux, and here is the thing weird, my bluetooth card was still
> working (the led was on). 
> 
> So i start bluetooth daemon (hcid, sdpd), i run a scan, and my phone
> is found !!!
> 
> The problem seems to be the bluetooth card doesn't "start"/"stop" on
> linux (the led story confirms that). So, is there a way to solve this
> thing ? Have I done something wrong ? 

The card might need a special init sequence to make it work. You can try
to load hci_usb with reset=1 module option. That might be enough.

Regards

Marcel



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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Franck F]

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Hi Marcel, thanks for the previous answer :)

> I've been trying to make my embedded bluetooth card work, but it seems
> > i have a big problem...
> > Before explaining it, here is my hardware specification:
> > Dell D830 laptop, and my bluetooth card (running lsusb):
> > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:8140 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 360
> > Bluetooth
>
> show me /proc/bus/usb/devices for your card.


T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  3 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=413c ProdID=8140 Rev=43.15
C:* #Ifs= 3 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  16 Ivl=1ms
E:  Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
I:* If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   0 Ivl=1ms
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   0 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 1 Alt= 1 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   9 Ivl=1ms
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   9 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 1 Alt= 2 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  17 Ivl=1ms
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  17 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 1 Alt= 3 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  25 Ivl=1ms
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  25 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 1 Alt= 4 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  33 Ivl=1ms
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  33 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 1 Alt= 5 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  49 Ivl=1ms
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  49 Ivl=1ms
I:* If#= 2 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=fe(app. ) Sub=01 Prot=00 Driver=(none)

> I have installed bluez-utils, bluez-libs, bluetooth, everything that
> > is seem to be needed.
> >
> > Here is what hciconfig give me:
> > hci0:   Type: USB
> >         BD Address: 00:1A:6B:8A:xx:xx ACL MTU: 310:10 SCO MTU: 64:8
> >         UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN
> >         RX bytes:4134 acl:0 sco:0 events:136 errors:0
> >         TX bytes:2047 acl:0 sco:0 commands:133 errors:0
> >
> > So my BT card seems to work ... but when I run a scan or an inq (with
> > hcitool), nothing is found. Also, the bluetooth led of my laptop is
> > off ...
> >
> > After doing many test, i was wondering if it was not a hardware
> > problem, so i have boot to windows to see if my card words. Everything
> > worked fine, the led was on, the scan showed my phone. Then i reboot
> > on linux, and here is the thing weird, my bluetooth card was still
> > working (the led was on).
> >
> > So i start bluetooth daemon (hcid, sdpd), i run a scan, and my phone
> > is found !!!
> >
> > The problem seems to be the bluetooth card doesn't "start"/"stop" on
> > linux (the led story confirms that). So, is there a way to solve this
> > thing ? Have I done something wrong ?
>
> The card might need a special init sequence to make it work. You can try
> to load hci_usb with reset=1 module option. That might be enough.



I tried and nothing change :(

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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi Franck,

>         > I've been trying to make my embedded bluetooth card work,
>         but it seems 
>         > i have a big problem...
>         > Before explaining it, here is my hardware specification:
>         > Dell D830 laptop, and my bluetooth card (running lsusb):
>         > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:8140 Dell Computer Corp.
>         Wireless 360 
>         > Bluetooth
>         
>         show me /proc/bus/usb/devices for your card. 
> 
> T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  3 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
> D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1 
> P:  Vendor=413c ProdID=8140 Rev=43.15
> C:* #Ifs= 3 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr=  0mA
> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  16 Ivl=1ms
> E:  Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms 
> E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
> I:* If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   0 Ivl=1ms
> E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   0 Ivl=1ms
> I:  If#= 1 Alt= 1 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none) 
> E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   9 Ivl=1ms
> E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   9 Ivl=1ms
> I:  If#= 1 Alt= 2 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  17 Ivl=1ms
> E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  17 Ivl=1ms 
> I:  If#= 1 Alt= 3 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  25 Ivl=1ms
> E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  25 Ivl=1ms
> I:  If#= 1 Alt= 4 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none) 
> E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  33 Ivl=1ms
> E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  33 Ivl=1ms
> I:  If#= 1 Alt= 5 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  49 Ivl=1ms
> E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  49 Ivl=1ms 
> I:* If#= 2 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=fe(app. ) Sub=01 Prot=00 Driver=(none)

if I am not mistaken, then this is a CSR based dongle. Would need to
decode the Rev=43.15 into the build id. However an easier way is when
you boot into Windows first and then into Linux so the dongle works and
then execute bccmd buildname (as root).

>         The card might need a special init sequence to make it work.
>         You can try
>         to load hci_usb with reset=1 module option. That might be
>         enough.
> 
> 
> I tried and nothing change :( 

You could sniff the init sequence under Windows. Would help to find the
init sequence.

Regards

Marcel



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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Franck F]

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2007/12/5, Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>:
>
> Hi Franck,
>
> >         > I've been trying to make my embedded bluetooth card work,
> >         but it seems
> >         > i have a big problem...
> >         > Before explaining it, here is my hardware specification:
> >         > Dell D830 laptop, and my bluetooth card (running lsusb):
> >         > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:8140 Dell Computer Corp.
> >         Wireless 360
> >         > Bluetooth
> >
> >         show me /proc/bus/usb/devices for your card.
> >
> > T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  3 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
> > D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
> > P:  Vendor=413c ProdID=8140 Rev=43.15
> > C:* #Ifs= 3 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr=  0mA
> > I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> > E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  16 Ivl=1ms
> > E:  Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
> > E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
> > I:* If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> > E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   0 Ivl=1ms
> > E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   0 Ivl=1ms
> > I:  If#= 1 Alt= 1 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> > E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   9 Ivl=1ms
> > E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   9 Ivl=1ms
> > I:  If#= 1 Alt= 2 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> > E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  17 Ivl=1ms
> > E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  17 Ivl=1ms
> > I:  If#= 1 Alt= 3 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> > E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  25 Ivl=1ms
> > E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  25 Ivl=1ms
> > I:  If#= 1 Alt= 4 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> > E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  33 Ivl=1ms
> > E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  33 Ivl=1ms
> > I:  If#= 1 Alt= 5 #EPs= 2 Cls=e0(unk. ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
> > E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  49 Ivl=1ms
> > E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=  49 Ivl=1ms
> > I:* If#= 2 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=fe(app. ) Sub=01 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
>
> if I am not mistaken, then this is a CSR based dongle. Would need to
> decode the Rev=43.15 into the build id. However an easier way is when
> you boot into Windows first and then into Linux so the dongle works and
> then execute bccmd buildname (as root).


Here is the result of bccmd buildname:
Build name: cyt_8unified_fl_bt2.0_kymodo_21d_0702212310_encr56 2007-02-21

What should i do with that ?

>         The card might need a special init sequence to make it work.
> >         You can try
> >         to load hci_usb with reset=1 module option. That might be
> >         enough.
> >
> >
> > I tried and nothing change :(
>
> You could sniff the init sequence under Windows. Would help to find the
> init sequence.


hmm, How can i do that ? and what should i do when i'll find the init
sequence ?

Thanks again.
-- 
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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi Franck,

>         if I am not mistaken, then this is a CSR based dongle. Would
>         need to
>         decode the Rev=43.15 into the build id. However an easier way
>         is when
>         you boot into Windows first and then into Linux so the dongle
>         works and 
>         then execute bccmd buildname (as root).
> 
> Here is the result of bccmd buildname:
> Build name: cyt_8unified_fl_bt2.0_kymodo_21d_0702212310_encr56
> 2007-02-21

this is a special build for Dell as it seems. I have no idea what's so
special about it. Only Dell or CSR people can answer that.

Maybe you need to enable the antenna or something. I don't know. There
could be also some ACPI magic that does this job.

>         You could sniff the init sequence under Windows. Would help to
>         find the 
>         init sequence.
> 
> hmm, How can i do that ? and what should i do when i'll find the init
> sequence ?

You can use USBsnoopy or run Linux and then Windows in a VMware and use
usbmon. There is no easy way to explain this task. Find someone who
donates one of these laptops and I can do it by myself. Otherwise you
are on your own here.

Regards

Marcel



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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Franck F]

Well, it seems my problem will not be solved soon ...

Anyway, thanks for your help :)

Regards,
Franck F.

Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> Hi Franck,
> 
> >         if I am not mistaken, then this is a CSR based dongle. Would
> >         need to
> >         decode the Rev=43.15 into the build id. However an easier way
> >         is when
> >         you boot into Windows first and then into Linux so the dongle
> >         works and 
> >         then execute bccmd buildname (as root).
> > 
> > Here is the result of bccmd buildname:
> > Build name: cyt_8unified_fl_bt2.0_kymodo_21d_0702212310_encr56
> > 2007-02-21
> 
> this is a special build for Dell as it seems. I have no idea what's so
> special about it. Only Dell or CSR people can answer that.
> 
> Maybe you need to enable the antenna or something. I don't know. There
> could be also some ACPI magic that does this job.
> 
> >         You could sniff the init sequence under Windows. Would help to
> >         find the 
> >         init sequence.
> > 
> > hmm, How can i do that ? and what should i do when i'll find the init
> > sequence ?
> 
> You can use USBsnoopy or run Linux and then Windows in a VMware and use
> usbmon. There is no easy way to explain this task. Find someone who
> donates one of these laptops and I can do it by myself. Otherwise you
> are on your own here.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Marcel
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Michael Mauch]

Franck F wrote:

> Well, it seems my problem will not be solved soon ...

Did you enable the WiFi/Bluetooth switch on the left side
of the box?

Regards...
                Michael

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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Franck F]

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Well, of course i did :) (the wifi works fine ;) )

2007/12/5, Michael Mauch <michael.mauch@gmx.de>:
>
> Franck F wrote:
>
> > Well, it seems my problem will not be solved soon ...
>
> Did you enable the WiFi/Bluetooth switch on the left side
> of the box?
>
> Regards...
>                 Michael
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Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

[Morten Kromann]

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Hey Frank 

had a similar problem on my acer Ferrari 3000… I could not turn the
Bluetooth (led) on or off whit the button on the side, but if I booted up in
windows it was on when I booted in to Linux (and Bluetooth worked).. I
solved by using acerhk module…  if this is the problem you should look for a
hot key module for your dell…

 

Regards

Morten Kromann

 

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Sendt: 6. december 2007 00:15
Til: BlueZ users
Emne: Re: [Bluez-users] Dell D830 laptop BT card doesn't start

 


Well, of course i did :) (the wifi works fine ;) )

2007/12/5, Michael Mauch <michael.mauch@gmx.de>:

Franck F wrote:

> Well, it seems my problem will not be solved soon ...

Did you enable the WiFi/Bluetooth switch on the left side
of the box?

Regards...
                Michael

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