From: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
To: Naohiro Aota <naohiro.aota@wdc.com>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, wangyugui@e16-tech.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] btrfs: disable inline checksum for multi-dev striped FS
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:01:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240119160101.GT31555@twin.jikos.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1705568050.git.naohiro.aota@wdc.com>
On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 05:54:49PM +0900, Naohiro Aota wrote:
> There was a report of write performance regression on 6.5-rc4 on RAID0
> (4 devices) btrfs [1]. Then, I reported that BTRFS_FS_CSUM_IMPL_FAST
> and doing the checksum inline can be bad for performance on RAID0
> setup [2].
First, please don't name it 'inline checksum', it's so confusing because
we have 'inline' as inline files and also the inline checksums stored in
the b-tree nodes.
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/20230731152223.4EFB.409509F4@e16-tech.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/p3vo3g7pqn664mhmdhlotu5dzcna6vjtcoc2hb2lsgo2fwct7k@xzaxclba5tae/
>
> While inlining the fast checksum is good for single (or two) device,
> but it is not fast enough for multi-device striped writing.
>
> So, this series first introduces fs_devices->inline_csum_mode and its
> sysfs interface to tweak the inline csum behavior (auto/on/off). Then,
> it disables inline checksum when it find a block group striped writing
> into multiple devices.
How is one supposed to know if and how the sysfs knob should be set?
This depends on the device speed(s), profiles and number of devices, can
the same decision logic be replicated inside btrfs? Such tuning should
be done automatically (similar things are done in other subystems like
memory management).
With such type of setting we'll get people randomly flipping it on/off
and see if it fixes performance, without actually looking if it's
relevant or not. We've seen this with random advice circling around
internet how to fix enospc problems, it's next to impossible to stop
that so I really don't want to allow that for performance.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-19 16:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-18 8:54 [PATCH 0/2] btrfs: disable inline checksum for multi-dev striped FS Naohiro Aota
2024-01-18 8:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] btrfs: introduce inline_csum_mode to tweak inline checksum behavior Naohiro Aota
2024-01-18 8:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] btrfs: detect multi-dev stripe and disable automatic inline checksum Naohiro Aota
2024-01-19 15:29 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-01-22 8:02 ` Naohiro Aota
2024-01-22 21:11 ` David Sterba
2024-01-18 9:12 ` [PATCH 0/2] btrfs: disable inline checksum for multi-dev striped FS Roman Mamedov
2024-01-19 15:49 ` David Sterba
2024-01-22 15:31 ` Naohiro Aota
2024-01-22 7:17 ` Naohiro Aota
2024-01-19 15:30 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-01-19 16:01 ` David Sterba [this message]
2024-01-22 15:12 ` Naohiro Aota
2024-01-22 21:19 ` David Sterba
2024-01-24 0:19 ` Wang Yugui
2024-01-29 12:56 ` Wang Yugui
2024-01-30 1:38 ` Naohiro Aota
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