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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 03/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add initial pSMMU realm viommu plumbing
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2026 20:56:09 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260902235609.GG2890729@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq5aecfbzjyk.fsf@kernel.org>

On Wed, Sep 02, 2026 at 10:09:15PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> static int arm_realm_smmu_v3_vdevice_init(struct iommufd_vdevice *vdev)
> {
> 	struct device *dev = iommufd_vdevice_to_device(vdev);
> 	struct kvm *kvm = vdev->viommu->kvm_file->private_data;
> 	struct arm_smmu_device *smmu;
> 	struct arm_smmu_stream *stream;
> 	struct arm_smmu_master *master;
> 	unsigned long rmi_ret = 0;
> 	unsigned long l2_sid;
> 	int ret;
> 
> 	if (!tsm_is_configured(dev))
> 		return 0;
> 
> 	master = dev_iommu_priv_get(dev);
> 	/* FIXME which stream to pick */
> 	/* At this moment, iommufd only supports PCI device that has one SID */
> 	stream = &master->streams[0];
> 	smmu = master->smmu;
> 
> 	l2_sid = ALIGN_DOWN(stream->id, STRTAB_NUM_L2_STES);
> 
> 	{
> 		guard(mutex)(&smmu->realm.mutex);
> 
> 		if (!arm_realm_smmu_active(smmu))
> 			return -EINVAL;
> 
> 		ret = rmi_psmmu_st_l2_create(smmu->base_phys, l2_sid,
> 					     &rmi_ret);
> 		if (ret || rmi_ret) {
> 			if (!ret)
> 				return -EIO;
> 			if (RMI_RETURN_STATUS(rmi_ret) != RMI_ERROR_PSMMU_ST ||
> 			    RMI_RETURN_INDEX(rmi_ret) != 2) {
> 				dev_warn(dev, "failed to create realm stream mapping\n");
> 				return -EIO;
> 			}
> 			/* The L2 stream table already exists. */
> 		}
> 	}
> 
> 	vdev->destroy = arm_realm_smmu_v3_vdevice_destroy;
> 	return tsm_bind(dev, kvm, vdev->virt_id);

I think we should drop tsm_bind() as an abstraction. It doesn't make
sense to take that round about path when we are calling RMIs directly
above. It was intended to be an abstraction, but it isn't working out
with this viommu based abstraction.

> @@ -513,10 +514,16 @@ static ssize_t cca_tsm_guest_req(struct pci_tdi *tdi,
>  		if (copy_from_user((void *)&req_obj, req.user, req_len))
>  			return -EFAULT;
>  
> -		if (req_obj.tdi_state != RHI_DA_TDI_CONFIG_RUN)
> +		switch (req_obj.tdi_state) {
> +		case RHI_DA_TDI_CONFIG_UNLOCKED:
> +			return cca_vdev_device_unlock(pdev);
> +		case RHI_DA_TDI_CONFIG_LOCKED:
> +			return cca_vdev_device_lock(pdev);
> +		case RHI_DA_TDI_CONFIG_RUN:
> +			return cca_vdev_device_start(pdev);
> +		default:
>  			return -EINVAL;
> -
> -		return cca_vdev_device_start(pdev);
> +		}
>  	}

This stuff cannot flow through sysfs. The VMM must support running in
a sandbox so it cannot easially call out to sysfs while the VM is
running. That makes the sandboxing more complex and ugly. The flow we
have now relies on fd passing from the launcher into the sandbox to
get things like vfio and iommufd into the VMM.

So these actions really should work the same way unless there is a
strong reason to do otherwise.

Given these are all acting on bound devices, and those can only be
created by iommufd, it makes more sense to feed the operations through
iommufd into the viommu and vdevice ops. AMD wanted to create such
general command ops anyhow for their viommu emulation (non cc).

And.. then you don't need struct pci_tdi. The vdevice is effectively
the tdi and the existing locking scheme in iommufd for vdevice takes
care of everything the tsm code was trying to do, except in a way that
applies to every viommu out there.. This actually makes a lot of sense
because the tdi is not really separable from vfio. You cannot have a
tdi without a kvm and you cannot link a pci dev to a kvm without vfio.

Finally, there is really nothing about the viommu_ops that has much to
do with smmuv3. It would be fairly straightforward for the tsm_ops to
be able to create the viommu and provide the viommu_ops. We can get
there based on the IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_ARM_REALM_SMMUV3.

This then would open up a much nicer split where arm-cca-guest.ko can
provide a realm smmuv3, and inside those viommu_ops are all the realm
& tdi related ops, psmmu, vsmmu, vdevice, "guest req".

The arm-cca-guest can just make a simple function call to SMMUv3 to
get the phys and interrupts. Somehow I think Will would like this
better than adding to SMMUv3.

Now that the viommu stuff is more developed on the iommufd end, and
the RMM spec is more complete with vsmmu, I think this arrangement
becomes visible.

What do you think?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-02 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-27  8:53 [RFC PATCH v4 00/16] coco/TSM: Implement host-side support for Arm CCA TDISP setup Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Discover RME support and realm IRQ topology Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-29 18:22   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-01  8:46     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-01 14:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Save the programmed MSI message in msi_desc Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add initial pSMMU realm viommu plumbing Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-29 20:00   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-01  9:17     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-01 10:06       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-01 14:34         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 17:13           ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-01 17:18             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-01 17:45               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 17:42             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 19:08               ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-02  0:21                 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-02  1:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-02 13:10             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-02  9:00           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-02 12:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-02 13:15               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-02 16:39                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-02 23:56                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-09-03  5:48                     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-03 17:17                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-02 19:30                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03  5:28                   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-03 14:47                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03 15:13                       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-03 17:19                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 17:36       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Track realm pSMMU users with refcount_t Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/16] coco: host: arm64: Add support for virtual device communication Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/16] coco: host: arm64: Add support for RMM vdev objects Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/16] coco: host: arm64: Add pdev stream key refresh and purge helpers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/16] coco: host: arm64: Add helpers to unlock and destroy RMM vdev Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/16] coco: host: arm64: Add support for da object read RHI handling Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/16] coco: host: arm64: Add helper for cached object fetches Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/16] coco: host: arm64: Fetch interface report via RMI Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/16] coco: host: arm64: Fetch device measurements " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/16] coco: host: KVM: arm64: Handle vdev validate-mapping exits Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/16] KVM: arm64: Unmap device mappings when a private granule is destroyed Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/16] coco: host: arm64: Transition vdevs to TDISP RUN state Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27  8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/16] KVM: arm64: CCA: enable DA in realm create parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-31 18:08 ` [RFC PATCH v4 00/16] coco/TSM: Implement host-side support for Arm CCA TDISP setup Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 12:44   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-01 13:07     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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