From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.15
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 08:25:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250325152541.GA1661@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-JE2HNY-Tj8qwQw@gondor.apana.org.au>
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 01:53:28PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
> crypto: hash - Add request chaining API
Herbert didn't mention that I have nacked this patch, which he is insisting on
pushing for some reason instead of my original version that is much better.
Let me reiterate why "request chaining" is a bad idea and is going to cause
problems.
It makes it so that now a single hash request can now actually be a list of hash
requests. It makes some of the crypto code operate on the whole list. However,
most code still operates only on the first request in the list. It's
undocumented and inconsistent which code is doing which, which is going to cause
bugs. The first request in the list is also being treated specially in
undocumented ways, so submitting a list of requests is not necessarily
equivalent to submitting them all individually. Another recipe for bugs.
Each hash request can also contain an entire scatterlist. It's overkill for
what is actually needed for multibuffer hashing, which is a simple API that
hashes two buffers specified by virtual address. Herbert's API creates lots of
unnecessary edge cases, most of which lack any testing. It continues many of
the worst practices of the crypto API that we *know* are not working, like
requiring per-request memory allocations and optimizing for legacy hardware
offload rather than the CPU-based crypto that almost everyone actually uses.
In contrast, my patchset
https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250212154718.44255-1-ebiggers@kernel.org/ supports
multibuffer hashing in a much better way and has been ready for a year already.
It actually works; it has a smaller diffstat; it is faster; it has a much
simpler API; and it actually includes all needed pieces including x86 and arm64
support, dm-verity and fs-verity support, and full documentation and tests.
I've been spending a lot of time fixing the kernel's crypto code over the years.
I'm not looking forward to having another set of major issues to fix.
And this latest set of issues will be totally unnecessary.
We can do better than this, especially for cryptography code.
Nacked-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
- Eric
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2020-08-03 4:40 [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.9 Herbert Xu
2020-08-03 17:55 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-08-30 22:33 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes " Herbert Xu
2020-08-30 23:02 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-09-10 0:34 ` Herbert Xu
2020-09-10 2:48 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-10-26 1:11 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.10 Herbert Xu
2020-10-26 17:52 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-12-27 11:32 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.11 Herbert Xu
2020-12-27 17:27 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-01-08 3:54 ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-08 20:36 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-01-18 5:13 ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-18 21:16 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-01-25 22:36 ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-26 0:01 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-07-08 3:09 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.14 Herbert Xu
2021-07-09 19:20 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-08-17 1:36 ` Herbert Xu
2021-08-17 2:27 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-09-29 2:38 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.15 Herbert Xu
2021-09-29 14:51 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-10-29 4:14 ` Herbert Xu
2021-10-29 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-11-02 4:01 ` Herbert Xu
2021-10-29 18:49 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-11-12 10:48 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.16 Herbert Xu
2021-11-12 20:42 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-12-22 5:13 ` Herbert Xu
2021-12-22 19:02 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-02-09 2:33 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.17 Herbert Xu
2022-02-09 18:01 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-16 1:13 ` Herbert Xu
2022-03-17 20:40 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-31 3:16 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.18 Herbert Xu
2022-03-31 19:12 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-05-20 5:41 ` Herbert Xu
2022-05-20 6:10 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-05-27 11:29 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.19 Herbert Xu
2022-05-28 1:21 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-06-17 8:29 ` Herbert Xu
2022-06-17 15:29 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-06-30 7:56 ` Herbert Xu
2022-06-30 17:28 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-08-31 8:55 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.0 Herbert Xu
2022-08-31 17:20 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-10-17 4:38 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.1 Herbert Xu
2022-10-17 17:51 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-10-28 4:58 ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-28 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-02 9:49 ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-28 17:02 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-01-06 9:15 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.2 Herbert Xu
2023-01-06 21:19 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-03-05 10:15 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.3 Herbert Xu
2023-03-05 19:37 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-05-07 13:19 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.4 Herbert Xu
2023-05-07 18:12 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-05-29 3:41 ` Herbert Xu
2023-05-29 11:39 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-07-09 23:51 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.5 Herbert Xu
2023-07-10 17:20 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-08-21 3:37 ` Herbert Xu
2023-08-21 5:09 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-08-31 5:16 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.6 Herbert Xu
2023-09-01 23:19 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-09-22 2:10 ` Herbert Xu
2023-09-22 16:43 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-10-10 8:46 ` Herbert Xu
2023-10-10 18:54 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-10-21 9:23 ` Herbert Xu
2023-10-21 17:57 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-11-09 4:30 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.7 Herbert Xu
2023-11-10 1:30 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-08-02 6:05 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.20 Herbert Xu
2022-08-03 0:57 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-10-04 8:54 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.1 Herbert Xu
2022-10-10 20:56 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-12-14 8:15 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.2 Herbert Xu
2022-12-14 22:25 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-02-20 5:22 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.3 Herbert Xu
2023-02-22 2:50 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-04-24 4:52 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.4 Herbert Xu
2023-04-26 17:06 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-06-29 5:06 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.5 Herbert Xu
2023-07-01 5:04 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-08-28 9:22 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.6 Herbert Xu
2023-08-29 19:00 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-11-02 6:56 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.7 Herbert Xu
2023-11-03 2:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-03 5:52 ` Herbert Xu
2023-11-03 6:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-06 10:00 ` [PATCH] crypto: jitterentropy - Hide esoteric Kconfig options under FIPS and EXPERT Herbert Xu
2023-11-06 15:25 ` Stephan Mueller
2023-11-10 9:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-03 2:37 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.7 pr-tracker-bot
2024-01-09 22:17 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.8 Herbert Xu
2024-01-10 20:38 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-02-01 5:32 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes " Herbert Xu
2024-02-01 18:23 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-02-08 4:29 ` Herbert Xu
2024-02-08 6:24 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-02-21 9:10 ` Herbert Xu
2024-02-21 17:17 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-02-28 8:07 ` Herbert Xu
2024-02-28 17:48 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-03-06 9:47 ` Herbert Xu
2024-03-06 16:33 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-03-25 9:47 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.9 Herbert Xu
2024-03-25 18:18 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-05-20 3:26 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.10 Herbert Xu
2024-05-20 16:33 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-05-29 4:17 ` Herbert Xu
2024-05-29 17:11 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-06-28 0:40 ` Herbert Xu
2024-06-28 1:01 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-09-23 3:08 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.12 Herbert Xu
2024-09-24 18:04 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-10-16 5:37 ` Herbert Xu
2024-10-16 20:51 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-10-21 5:45 ` Herbert Xu
2024-10-21 18:27 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-11-15 11:51 ` Herbert Xu
2024-11-15 18:59 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-12-14 9:21 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.13 Herbert Xu
2024-12-14 17:18 ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-03-31 4:50 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.15 Herbert Xu
2025-04-05 2:23 ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-05 3:09 ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-04-16 5:16 ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-16 15:24 ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-04-24 9:07 ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-24 16:29 ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-04-30 2:47 ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-30 4:19 ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-05-21 1:59 ` Herbert Xu
2025-05-21 3:15 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-03-15 3:04 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.9 Herbert Xu
2024-03-15 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-16 4:39 ` Herbert Xu
2024-03-15 21:59 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-05-13 3:50 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.10 Herbert Xu
2024-05-13 22:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-14 5:17 ` Herbert Xu
2024-05-14 5:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-14 6:02 ` Herbert Xu
2024-05-14 6:54 ` Lukas Wunner
2024-05-14 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-13 22:38 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-07-18 13:49 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.11 Herbert Xu
2024-07-19 18:09 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-09-16 3:59 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.12 Herbert Xu
2024-09-16 4:55 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-11-18 3:18 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.13 Herbert Xu
2024-11-19 19:06 ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-01-23 11:10 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.14 Herbert Xu
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2025-03-25 5:53 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.15 Herbert Xu
2025-03-25 15:25 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
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2025-03-26 1:49 ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-26 2:16 ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-26 3:34 ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-26 3:52 ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-30 2:33 ` Chaining is dead Herbert Xu
2025-03-31 16:56 ` Eric Biggers
2025-04-01 2:44 ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-01 3:33 ` Eric Biggers
2025-04-01 3:55 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-04-01 4:14 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-04-01 3:30 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-04-04 8:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-26 3:20 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.15 Eric Biggers
2025-03-26 3:30 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-03-29 18:06 ` Eric Biggers
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2025-03-29 18:38 ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-29 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-29 18:24 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-10-12 3:32 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.10 Herbert Xu
2020-10-13 16:24 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-12-14 5:55 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.11 Herbert Xu
2020-12-14 20:56 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-02-15 2:47 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.12 Herbert Xu
2021-02-22 1:28 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-04-26 12:32 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.13 Herbert Xu
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2021-06-28 11:00 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.14 Herbert Xu
2021-06-28 23:36 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-08-30 8:28 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.15 Herbert Xu
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2021-11-02 3:52 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.16 Herbert Xu
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2022-01-11 2:04 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.17 Herbert Xu
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2022-03-20 23:42 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.18 Herbert Xu
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2022-03-22 5:49 ` Herbert Xu
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