From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Chaining is dead
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 12:14:44 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-toNJtPYsOmRcFM@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250401040852.GC56851@sol.localdomain>
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 09:08:52PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
>
> Interesting seeing this argument coming from you when the whole Crypto API is
> built around forcing software crypto to use interfaces designed for hardware.
Perhaps you should take your rose-coloured glasses off? :)
> aes_expandkey() if we switch to that) for every I/O request. The blk-crypto
> interface could be reworked to support pre-expansion of the key, but that would
> differ from what actual inline encryption hardware needs. So this is just
> another case where the needs of hardware vs. software diverge...
If we're going to converge on one interface, then it better put
the needs of software crypto first and foremost. Now that doesn't
mean throwing out support for hardware altogether, but hardware
does need to take a backseat every now and then.
Cheers,
--
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt
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2020-08-03 4:40 [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.9 Herbert Xu
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2020-08-30 22:33 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes " Herbert Xu
2020-08-30 23:02 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-09-10 0:34 ` Herbert Xu
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2020-10-26 1:11 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.10 Herbert Xu
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2020-12-27 11:32 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.11 Herbert Xu
2020-12-27 17:27 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-01-08 3:54 ` Herbert Xu
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2021-01-18 5:13 ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-18 21:16 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-01-25 22:36 ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-26 0:01 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-07-08 3:09 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.14 Herbert Xu
2021-07-09 19:20 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-08-17 1:36 ` Herbert Xu
2021-08-17 2:27 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-09-29 2:38 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.15 Herbert Xu
2021-09-29 14:51 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-10-29 4:14 ` Herbert Xu
2021-10-29 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-11-02 4:01 ` Herbert Xu
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2021-11-12 10:48 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.16 Herbert Xu
2021-11-12 20:42 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-12-22 5:13 ` Herbert Xu
2021-12-22 19:02 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-02-09 2:33 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.17 Herbert Xu
2022-02-09 18:01 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-16 1:13 ` Herbert Xu
2022-03-17 20:40 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-31 3:16 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.18 Herbert Xu
2022-03-31 19:12 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-05-20 5:41 ` Herbert Xu
2022-05-20 6:10 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-05-27 11:29 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.19 Herbert Xu
2022-05-28 1:21 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-06-17 8:29 ` Herbert Xu
2022-06-17 15:29 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-06-30 7:56 ` Herbert Xu
2022-06-30 17:28 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-08-31 8:55 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.0 Herbert Xu
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2022-10-17 4:38 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.1 Herbert Xu
2022-10-17 17:51 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-10-28 4:58 ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-28 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-02 9:49 ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-28 17:02 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-01-06 9:15 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.2 Herbert Xu
2023-01-06 21:19 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-03-05 10:15 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.3 Herbert Xu
2023-03-05 19:37 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-05-07 13:19 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.4 Herbert Xu
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2023-05-29 3:41 ` Herbert Xu
2023-05-29 11:39 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-07-09 23:51 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.5 Herbert Xu
2023-07-10 17:20 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-08-21 3:37 ` Herbert Xu
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2023-08-31 5:16 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.6 Herbert Xu
2023-09-01 23:19 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-09-22 2:10 ` Herbert Xu
2023-09-22 16:43 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-10-10 8:46 ` Herbert Xu
2023-10-10 18:54 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-10-21 9:23 ` Herbert Xu
2023-10-21 17:57 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-11-09 4:30 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.7 Herbert Xu
2023-11-10 1:30 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-08-02 6:05 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.20 Herbert Xu
2022-08-03 0:57 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-10-04 8:54 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.1 Herbert Xu
2022-10-10 20:56 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-12-14 8:15 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.2 Herbert Xu
2022-12-14 22:25 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-02-20 5:22 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.3 Herbert Xu
2023-02-22 2:50 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-04-24 4:52 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.4 Herbert Xu
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2023-06-29 5:06 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.5 Herbert Xu
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2023-08-28 9:22 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.6 Herbert Xu
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2023-11-02 6:56 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.7 Herbert Xu
2023-11-03 2:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-03 5:52 ` Herbert Xu
2023-11-03 6:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-06 10:00 ` [PATCH] crypto: jitterentropy - Hide esoteric Kconfig options under FIPS and EXPERT Herbert Xu
2023-11-06 15:25 ` Stephan Mueller
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2024-01-09 22:17 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.8 Herbert Xu
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2024-02-01 5:32 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes " Herbert Xu
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2024-02-08 4:29 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-02-21 9:10 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-02-28 8:07 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-03-06 9:47 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-03-25 9:47 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.9 Herbert Xu
2024-03-25 18:18 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-05-20 3:26 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.10 Herbert Xu
2024-05-20 16:33 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-05-29 4:17 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-06-28 0:40 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-09-23 3:08 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.12 Herbert Xu
2024-09-24 18:04 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-10-16 5:37 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-10-21 5:45 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-11-15 11:51 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-12-14 9:21 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.13 Herbert Xu
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2025-04-05 2:23 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-04-16 5:16 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-04-24 9:07 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-04-30 2:47 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-05-21 1:59 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-03-15 3:04 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.9 Herbert Xu
2024-03-15 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-16 4:39 ` Herbert Xu
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2024-05-13 3:50 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.10 Herbert Xu
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2024-07-18 13:49 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.11 Herbert Xu
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2025-03-26 1:49 ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-26 2:16 ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-26 3:34 ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-26 3:52 ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-30 2:33 ` Chaining is dead Herbert Xu
2025-03-31 16:56 ` Eric Biggers
2025-04-01 2:44 ` Herbert Xu
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2025-03-26 3:20 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.15 Eric Biggers
2025-03-26 3:30 ` Herbert Xu
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2021-06-28 11:00 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.14 Herbert Xu
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2021-08-30 8:28 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.15 Herbert Xu
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