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From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Chaining is dead
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 11:30:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-td2eIxPp-gRq7n@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250331165630.GA3893920@google.com>

On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 04:56:30PM +0000, Eric Biggers wrote:
>
> For hashing, users would need to allocate an array to hold the digest for every
> block in the bio or folio.  That would add an additional memory allocation to
> every I/O.  You said you'd like to fall back to a smaller buffer if the memory
> allocation fails.  But that's silly; if we have to support that anyway, we might
> as well do it that way only.  In which case the bio interface is pointless.

BTW, the existing verity code is hilarious.  In my test, for each
256KB bio, it was dividing them up into 4KB pages, and then for each
one of them, it's looking up the correct hash in the Merkle tree.

Surely there is some locality here so if you zoom out from 4KB (or
even 8KB with your multibuffer patch-set) to 256KB you could get all
the correct hashes in one go, rather than 64 times.

Cheers,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-01  3:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 204+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-03  4:40 [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.9 Herbert Xu
2020-08-03 17:55 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-08-30 22:33 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes " Herbert Xu
2020-08-30 23:02   ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-09-10  0:34   ` Herbert Xu
2020-09-10  2:48     ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-10-26  1:11   ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.10 Herbert Xu
2020-10-26 17:52     ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-12-27 11:32     ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.11 Herbert Xu
2020-12-27 17:27       ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-01-08  3:54       ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-08 20:36         ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-01-18  5:13         ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-18 21:16           ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-01-25 22:36           ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-26  0:01             ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-07-08  3:09         ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.14 Herbert Xu
2021-07-09 19:20           ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-08-17  1:36           ` Herbert Xu
2021-08-17  2:27             ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-09-29  2:38             ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.15 Herbert Xu
2021-09-29 14:51               ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-10-29  4:14               ` Herbert Xu
2021-10-29 17:39                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-11-02  4:01                   ` Herbert Xu
2021-10-29 18:49                 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-11-12 10:48                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.16 Herbert Xu
2021-11-12 20:42                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-12-22  5:13                   ` Herbert Xu
2021-12-22 19:02                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-02-09  2:33                     ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.17 Herbert Xu
2022-02-09 18:01                       ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-16  1:13                       ` Herbert Xu
2022-03-17 20:40                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-31  3:16                         ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.18 Herbert Xu
2022-03-31 19:12                           ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-05-20  5:41                           ` Herbert Xu
2022-05-20  6:10                             ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-05-27 11:29                           ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 5.19 Herbert Xu
2022-05-28  1:21                             ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-06-17  8:29                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-06-17 15:29                               ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-06-30  7:56                               ` Herbert Xu
2022-06-30 17:28                                 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-08-31  8:55                                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.0 Herbert Xu
2022-08-31 17:20                                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-10-17  4:38                                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.1 Herbert Xu
2022-10-17 17:51                                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-10-28  4:58                                   ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-28 17:00                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-02  9:49                                       ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-28 17:02                                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-01-06  9:15                                     ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.2 Herbert Xu
2023-01-06 21:19                                       ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-03-05 10:15                                       ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.3 Herbert Xu
2023-03-05 19:37                                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-05-07 13:19                                         ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.4 Herbert Xu
2023-05-07 18:12                                           ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-05-29  3:41                                           ` Herbert Xu
2023-05-29 11:39                                             ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-07-09 23:51                                             ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.5 Herbert Xu
2023-07-10 17:20                                               ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-08-21  3:37                                               ` Herbert Xu
2023-08-21  5:09                                                 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-08-31  5:16                                                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.6 Herbert Xu
2023-09-01 23:19                                                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-09-22  2:10                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2023-09-22 16:43                                                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-10-10  8:46                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2023-10-10 18:54                                                       ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-10-21  9:23                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2023-10-21 17:57                                                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-11-09  4:30                                                   ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.7 Herbert Xu
2023-11-10  1:30                                                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-08-02  6:05                             ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.20 Herbert Xu
2022-08-03  0:57                               ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-10-04  8:54                               ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.1 Herbert Xu
2022-10-10 20:56                                 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-12-14  8:15                                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.2 Herbert Xu
2022-12-14 22:25                                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-02-20  5:22                                   ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.3 Herbert Xu
2023-02-22  2:50                                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-04-24  4:52                                     ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.4 Herbert Xu
2023-04-26 17:06                                       ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-06-29  5:06                                       ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.5 Herbert Xu
2023-07-01  5:04                                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-08-28  9:22                                         ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.6 Herbert Xu
2023-08-29 19:00                                           ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-11-02  6:56                                           ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.7 Herbert Xu
2023-11-03  2:34                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-03  5:52                                               ` Herbert Xu
2023-11-03  6:32                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-06 10:00                                                   ` [PATCH] crypto: jitterentropy - Hide esoteric Kconfig options under FIPS and EXPERT Herbert Xu
2023-11-06 15:25                                                     ` Stephan Mueller
2023-11-10  9:04                                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-03  2:37                                             ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.7 pr-tracker-bot
2024-01-09 22:17                                             ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.8 Herbert Xu
2024-01-10 20:38                                               ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-02-01  5:32                                               ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes " Herbert Xu
2024-02-01 18:23                                                 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-02-08  4:29                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2024-02-08  6:24                                                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-02-21  9:10                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2024-02-21 17:17                                                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-02-28  8:07                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2024-02-28 17:48                                                       ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-03-06  9:47                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2024-03-06 16:33                                                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-03-25  9:47                                                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.9 Herbert Xu
2024-03-25 18:18                                                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-05-20  3:26                                                   ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.10 Herbert Xu
2024-05-20 16:33                                                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-05-29  4:17                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2024-05-29 17:11                                                       ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-06-28  0:40                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2024-06-28  1:01                                                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-09-23  3:08                                                     ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.12 Herbert Xu
2024-09-24 18:04                                                       ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-10-16  5:37                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2024-10-16 20:51                                                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-10-21  5:45                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2024-10-21 18:27                                                           ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-11-15 11:51                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2024-11-15 18:59                                                             ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-12-14  9:21                                                       ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.13 Herbert Xu
2024-12-14 17:18                                                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-03-31  4:50                                                         ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Fixes for 6.15 Herbert Xu
2025-04-05  2:23                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-05  3:09                                                             ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-04-16  5:16                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-16 15:24                                                               ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-04-24  9:07                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-24 16:29                                                                 ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-04-30  2:47                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-30  4:19                                                                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-05-21  1:59                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2025-05-21  3:15                                                                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-03-15  3:04                                               ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.9 Herbert Xu
2024-03-15 21:51                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-16  4:39                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2024-03-15 21:59                                                 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-05-13  3:50                                                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.10 Herbert Xu
2024-05-13 22:12                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-14  5:17                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2024-05-14  5:41                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-14  6:02                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2024-05-14  6:54                                                     ` Lukas Wunner
2024-05-14 17:07                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-13 22:38                                                   ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-07-18 13:49                                                   ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.11 Herbert Xu
2024-07-19 18:09                                                     ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-09-16  3:59                                                     ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.12 Herbert Xu
2024-09-16  4:55                                                       ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-11-18  3:18                                                       ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.13 Herbert Xu
2024-11-19 19:06                                                         ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-01-23 11:10                                                         ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.14 Herbert Xu
2025-01-24 16:05                                                           ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-03-25  5:53                                                           ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.15 Herbert Xu
2025-03-25 15:25                                                             ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-25 16:59                                                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-03-26  1:49                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-26  2:16                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-26  3:34                                                                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-26  3:52                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-30  2:33                                                                       ` Chaining is dead Herbert Xu
2025-03-31 16:56                                                                         ` Eric Biggers
2025-04-01  2:44                                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-01  3:33                                                                             ` Eric Biggers
2025-04-01  3:55                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-01  4:08                                                                                 ` Eric Biggers
2025-04-01  4:14                                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-01  7:20                                                                               ` Milan Broz
2025-04-01  3:30                                                                           ` Herbert Xu [this message]
2025-04-01  3:39                                                                             ` Eric Biggers
2025-04-04  8:46                                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-26  3:20                                                                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.15 Eric Biggers
2025-03-26  3:30                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-29 17:40                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-29 18:06                                                                 ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-29 18:17                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-29 18:19                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-29 18:38                                                                       ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-29 18:52                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-29 18:24                                                             ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-10-12  3:32 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.10 Herbert Xu
2020-10-13 16:24   ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-12-14  5:55   ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.11 Herbert Xu
2020-12-14 20:56     ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-02-15  2:47     ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.12 Herbert Xu
2021-02-22  1:28       ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-04-26 12:32       ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.13 Herbert Xu
2021-04-26 15:59         ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-06-28 11:00         ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.14 Herbert Xu
2021-06-28 23:36           ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-08-30  8:28           ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.15 Herbert Xu
2021-08-30 20:17             ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-11-02  3:52             ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.16 Herbert Xu
2021-11-02  4:27               ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-01-11  2:04               ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.17 Herbert Xu
2022-01-11 20:53                 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-20 23:42                 ` [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 5.18 Herbert Xu
2022-03-21 23:14                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-22  5:49                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-03-21 23:18                   ` pr-tracker-bot

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