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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>, <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	<ira.weiny@intel.com>, <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	<alison.schofield@intel.com>, <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	<jgg@nvidia.com>, <shiju.jose@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 04/19] cxl: Add Get Supported Features command for kernel usage
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:54:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <67982acfd7882_2d1e29420@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250127111008.000002c1@huawei.com>

Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 16:30:17 -0800
> Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dave Jiang wrote:
> > > CXL spec r3.1 8.2.9.6.1 Get Supported Features (Opcode 0500h)
> > > The command retrieve the list of supported device-specific features
> > > (identified by UUID) and general information about each Feature.
> > > 
> > > The driver will retrieve the feature entries in order to make checks and
> > > provide information for the Get Feature and Set Feature command. One of
> > > the main piece of information retrieved are the effects a Set Feature
> > > command would have for a particular feature.
> > > 
> > > Co-developed-by: Shiju Jose <shiju.jose@huawei.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Shiju Jose <shiju.jose@huawei.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
[..]
> > This has me thinking that the EDAC integration should just be a feature
> > of the cxl_features_driver.
> 
> I'm not 100% sure I see what you mean here, but if you mean pushing
> the registration code into cxl_features.ko...
> 
> I replied to this in the other thread, but just to add a bit here.
> I think this creates a worse spiders web than we have today. Not
> all EDAC features we might add (e.g. device self test) have anything to do
> with get/set features.  I'm not sure we'll support that one in EDAC soon
> though it might make sense if there is generality with non CXL systems
> (I've been meaning to look into that.)

I came to the same conclusion and am now skeptical of cxl_features.ko vs
just extended the memdev ABI. We have long since shipped the expectation
that command passthrough is a compile time policy option. Each component
that wants a CXL-Features-FWCTL interface can just register one via CXL
core helpers. In this case it will be similar to what currently happens
with the fw_upload interface registered against the memdev, not a
cxl_fw_upload.ko driver.

> To me, the CXL features support is providing a service to some of the EDAC
> features, but they use other services from CXL drivers and potentially
> don't use CXL features at all.  For now we have the repair drivers
> that only use the features support for a tiny bit of what they do
> (tweaking device initiated aspects and detailed record generation
>  - if we even support those yet).
> 
> At some point we may have core CXL functionality depending on
> get/set features as well as there are things we definitely don't
> want in either EDAC or fwctl like metabits storage controls.
> So I'd be careful adding any thing to cxl_features beyond stuff
> that is definitely clustered with fwctl bit or helpers.
> 
> Soon I'd also expect us to add 'features' to fwctl interface
> that aren't using get/set features. I think you suggested that we
> could do this by making up some guids for them and pushing though
> this same interface.

Yes, although I hope the availability of FWCTL encourages new and
interesting device functionality to just be a Feature, so that we don't
have to play Linux GUID games. That might be what triggers the creation
of a query command because that could lead to future scenarios where the
kernel needs to dynamically mark a Feature as exclusive that was
previously allowed before the kernel knew about it.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-28  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-22 23:50 [PATCH v1 0/19] cxl: Add CXL feature commands support via fwctl Dave Jiang
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 01/19] cxl: Refactor user ioctl command path from mds to mailbox Dave Jiang
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 02/19] cxl: Add skeletal features driver Dave Jiang
2025-01-23  3:59   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-23 15:49     ` Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 19:57       ` Dan Williams
2025-01-23 17:24   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 03/19] cxl: Enumerate feature commands Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 17:33   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-23 23:55   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 04/19] cxl: Add Get Supported Features command for kernel usage Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 17:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24  0:30   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-24 15:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-27 11:10     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-28  0:54       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 05/19] cxl: Add features driver attribute to emit number of features supported Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 17:44   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24  0:35   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 06/19] cxl/test: Add Get Supported Features mailbox command support Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 17:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24  0:42   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 07/19] cxl/mbox: Add GET_FEATURE mailbox command Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 17:50   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24 22:58   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-29  0:14     ` Dave Jiang
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 08/19] cxl/mbox: Add SET_FEATURE " Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 17:52   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24 23:01   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 09/19] cxl: Setup exclusive CXL features that are reserved for the kernel Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 17:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24 23:05   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 10/19] cxl: Add FWCTL support to the CXL features driver Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 18:04   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-23 18:53     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-24 23:14   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 11/19] cxl: Add support for get driver information Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 18:09   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-25  1:26   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 12/19] cxl: Move cxl_mem.h under uapi to cxl exclusive directory Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 18:10   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-25  1:29   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 13/19] cxl: Move cxl feature command structs to user header Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 18:12   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-23 18:13     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-25  1:34   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 14/19] cxl: Add support for fwctl RPC command to enable CXL feature commands Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 18:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-25  2:08   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-27 10:51     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-28  0:40       ` Dan Williams
2025-01-28 12:01         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-28 15:55           ` Dave Jiang
2025-01-30 13:42             ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-04  1:43           ` Dan Williams
2025-02-04 10:04             ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-04 22:26               ` Dan Williams
2025-02-05 17:36                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-05 18:02                   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 15/19] cxl: Add support to handle user feature commands for get feature Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 18:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-25  2:23   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 16/19] cxl: Add support to handle user feature commands for set feature Dave Jiang
2025-01-23 18:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-25  2:29   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 17/19] cxl/test: Add Get Feature support to cxl_test Dave Jiang
2025-01-25  2:33   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 18/19] cxl/test: Add Set " Dave Jiang
2025-01-25  2:36   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v1 19/19] fwctl/cxl: Add documentation to FWCTL CXL Dave Jiang
2025-01-25  2:55   ` Dan Williams
2025-01-23 17:03 ` [PATCH v1 0/19] cxl: Add CXL feature commands support via fwctl Jonathan Cameron

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