From: "Cheatham, Benjamin" <benjamin.cheatham@amd.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<kernel-team@meta.com>, <dave@stgolabs.net>,
<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>, <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
<alison.schofield@intel.com>, <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
<ira.weiny@intel.com>, <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
"Hannes Reinecke" <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] cxl/sysram: disallow onlining in ZONE_NORMAL if state is movable only
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 16:35:02 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <988ca415-ea91-4509-8552-5b8829d9e8f0@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWWAaDK91qAVLRLz@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>
On 1/12/2026 5:14 PM, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 03:11:05PM -0600, Cheatham, Benjamin wrote:
>> On 1/12/2026 10:35 AM, Gregory Price wrote:
>>> If state is set to online (default to ZONE_MOVABLE), the user intends
>>> for this memory to either refuse non-movable allocations, and/or intends
>>> to preserve the hot-unpluggability of this memory. However, any admin
>>> can write `offline` and `online` to the memory block controller and
>>> bring that memory online in ZONE_NORMAL.
>>
>> Is it the expectation that the user will never want to change the zone from
>> MOVABLE to NORMAL? I can't think of a reason someone would want to off the top
>> of my head, but I also can't think of a reason to restrict it either.
>>
>
> It's more to restrict this pattern
>
> echo online_movable > region0/hotplug
> -> creates: node1/memory123/
>
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo online > node1/memory123/state
>
> The result of this would be valid_zones=[normal movable], which would
> break hot-unplug.
Ahh ok I think I get it now. I wasn't thinking about bypassing the memctrl/ interface
and using the memory block sysfs directly. Thanks for the explanation!
Thanks,
Ben
>
>>> If an actor attempts to online the block into ZONE_NORMAL, it will fail,
>>> but if it attempts to online into either NORMAL or MOVABLE, only MOVABLE
>>> will be allowed and it will succeed.
>>
>> I'm not sure you need this paragraph. I think it's a logical conclusion of the above
>> that if someone attempts to online the memory as NORMAL or MOVABLE it'll only be onlined
>> as MOVABLE.
>
> in the above situation the following occurs:
>
> echo online > region0/hotplug
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo online > node1/memory123/state
> cat node1/memory123/valid_zones
> normal movable
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo 1 > node1/memory123/online
> cat node1/memory123/valid_zones
> normal
>
>
> echo online_movable > region0/hotplug
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo online > node1/memory123/state
> cat node1/memory123/valid_zones
> movable
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo 1 > node1/memory123/online
> fail with EXXXX (i forget what code)
>
> It's a little confusing.
>
>>> + switch (data->last_online_type) {
>>> + case MMOP_ONLINE_MOVABLE:
>>> + return sysfs_emit(buf, "online\n");
>>> + case MMOP_ONLINE_KERNEL:
>>> + return sysfs_emit(buf, "online_normal\n");
>>> + case MMOP_OFFLINE:
>>> + default:
>>
>> You're missing the MMOP_ONLINE case. In that case the memory would be reported as "offline", which
>> I doubt is the intention.
>>
>
> Blah, i originally had all of them and just reduced to
> MMOP_ONLINE_MOVABLE and MMOP_ONLINE (i don't see a good use for
> MMOP_ONLINE_KERNEL), but i'll fix this up.
>
> Thanks!
> Gregory
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2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 0/6] CXL: Introduce memory controller abstraction and sysram controller Gregory Price
2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 1/6] drivers/cxl: add cxl_memctrl_mode and region->memctrl Gregory Price
2026-01-12 20:59 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 22:25 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 18:00 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-13 20:07 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 16:36 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 21:10 ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:34 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 17:18 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-14 18:25 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 18:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 2/6] cxl: add sysram_region memory controller Gregory Price
2026-01-12 20:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-12 22:43 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 22:47 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10 ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:55 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 22:34 ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 3/6] cxl/core/region: move pmem memctrl logic into memctrl/pmem_region Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10 ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:58 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 9:12 ` Neeraj Kumar
2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 4/6] cxl: add CONFIG_CXL_REGION_CTRL_AUTO_* build config options Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10 ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:05 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 4:31 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-13 13:55 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 5/6] cxl: add CXL_REGION_SYSRAM_DEFAULT_* build options Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:11 ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:07 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 6/6] cxl/sysram: disallow onlining in ZONE_NORMAL if state is movable only Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:11 ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:14 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 22:35 ` Cheatham, Benjamin [this message]
2026-01-13 9:37 ` [PATCH 0/6] CXL: Introduce memory controller abstraction and sysram controller Neeraj Kumar
2026-01-13 13:33 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-15 18:43 ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2026-01-15 18:56 ` Gregory Price
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