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From: "Cheatham, Benjamin" <benjamin.cheatham@amd.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kernel-team@meta.com>, <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>, <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	<alison.schofield@intel.com>, <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	<ira.weiny@intel.com>, <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	"Hannes Reinecke" <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] cxl/sysram: disallow onlining in ZONE_NORMAL if state is movable only
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 16:35:02 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <988ca415-ea91-4509-8552-5b8829d9e8f0@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWWAaDK91qAVLRLz@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On 1/12/2026 5:14 PM, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 03:11:05PM -0600, Cheatham, Benjamin wrote:
>> On 1/12/2026 10:35 AM, Gregory Price wrote:
>>> If state is set to online (default to ZONE_MOVABLE), the user intends
>>> for this memory to either refuse non-movable allocations, and/or intends
>>> to preserve the hot-unpluggability of this memory.  However, any admin
>>> can write `offline` and `online` to the memory block controller and
>>> bring that memory online in ZONE_NORMAL.
>>
>> Is it the expectation that the user will never want to change the zone from
>> MOVABLE to NORMAL? I can't think of a reason someone would want to off the top
>> of my head, but I also can't think of a reason to restrict it either.
>>
> 
> It's more to restrict this pattern
> 
> echo online_movable > region0/hotplug
>    -> creates:   node1/memory123/
> 
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo online > node1/memory123/state
> 
> The result of this would be valid_zones=[normal movable], which would
> break hot-unplug.

Ahh ok I think I get it now. I wasn't thinking about bypassing the memctrl/ interface
and using the memory block sysfs directly. Thanks for the explanation!

Thanks,
Ben

> 
>>> If an actor attempts to online the block into ZONE_NORMAL, it will fail,
>>> but if it attempts to online into either NORMAL or MOVABLE, only MOVABLE
>>> will be allowed and it will succeed.
>>
>> I'm not sure you need this paragraph. I think it's a logical conclusion of the above
>> that if someone attempts to online the memory as NORMAL or MOVABLE it'll only be onlined
>> as MOVABLE.
> 
> in the above situation the following occurs:
> 
> echo online  > region0/hotplug
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo online  > node1/memory123/state
> cat node1/memory123/valid_zones
>    normal movable
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo 1  > node1/memory123/online
> cat node1/memory123/valid_zones
>    normal
> 
> 
> echo online_movable  > region0/hotplug
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo online  > node1/memory123/state
> cat node1/memory123/valid_zones
>    movable
> echo offline > node1/memory123/state
> echo 1  > node1/memory123/online
>    fail with EXXXX (i forget what code)
> 
> It's a little confusing.
> 
>>> +	switch (data->last_online_type) {
>>> +	case MMOP_ONLINE_MOVABLE:
>>> +		return sysfs_emit(buf, "online\n");
>>> +	case MMOP_ONLINE_KERNEL:
>>> +		return sysfs_emit(buf, "online_normal\n");
>>> +	case MMOP_OFFLINE:
>>> +	default:
>>
>> You're missing the MMOP_ONLINE case. In that case the memory would be reported as "offline", which
>> I doubt is the intention.
>>
> 
> Blah, i originally had all of them and just reduced to
> MMOP_ONLINE_MOVABLE and MMOP_ONLINE (i don't see a good use for
> MMOP_ONLINE_KERNEL), but i'll fix this up.
> 
> Thanks!
> Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-13 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20260113093758epcas5p10cc9749a657b8e4d32db75b8b973b67d@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 0/6] CXL: Introduce memory controller abstraction and sysram controller Gregory Price
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 1/6] drivers/cxl: add cxl_memctrl_mode and region->memctrl Gregory Price
2026-01-12 20:59     ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 22:25       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 18:00       ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-13 20:07         ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 16:36         ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 21:10     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:34       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 17:18     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-14 18:25       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 18:36         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 2/6] cxl: add sysram_region memory controller Gregory Price
2026-01-12 20:00     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-12 22:43       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10     ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 22:47       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:55       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 22:34         ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 3/6] cxl/core/region: move pmem memctrl logic into memctrl/pmem_region Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:58       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13  9:12         ` Neeraj Kumar
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 4/6] cxl: add CONFIG_CXL_REGION_CTRL_AUTO_* build config options Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:05       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13  4:31         ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-13 13:55           ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 5/6] cxl: add CXL_REGION_SYSRAM_DEFAULT_* build options Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:11     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:07       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 6/6] cxl/sysram: disallow onlining in ZONE_NORMAL if state is movable only Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:11     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:14       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 22:35         ` Cheatham, Benjamin [this message]
2026-01-13  9:37   ` [PATCH 0/6] CXL: Introduce memory controller abstraction and sysram controller Neeraj Kumar
2026-01-13 13:33     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-15 18:43   ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2026-01-15 18:56     ` Gregory Price

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