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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: dan.j.williams@intel.com
Cc: "Cheatham, Benjamin" <benjamin.cheatham@amd.com>,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	jonathan.cameron@huawei.com, dave.jiang@intel.com,
	alison.schofield@intel.com, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
	ira.weiny@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] cxl: add CONFIG_CXL_REGION_CTRL_AUTO_* build config options
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 08:55:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWZOu-6ML_kd7DFX@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6965cabc68fda_875d100c0@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 08:31:56PM -0800, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
> Gregory Price wrote:
> [..]
> > > If you remove the 'auto' mode earlier on, then you can just drop the first sentence here.
> > > I'd also add a note about when a DAX region can be failed to be created (i.e. BIOS already
> > > set up and onlined the memory).
> > > 
> > 
> > I think I'm just going to drop this entirely, probably this was just too
> > ambitious trying to create an easy transition from dax to sysram for
> > auto regions.
> > 
> > The reality is BIOS-configured decoders "is NOT the way" (TM). If BIOS
> > configures it - it's DAX, otherwise the user gets a choice (or they can
> > tear it down and rebuild).
> 
> Is the plan here to "whither struct memory_block"? I can see value in
> starting the deprecation process given the problems Hannes points out
> and BIOS alignment causes massive numbers of those things to show up.
>
> If yes, then even if it is DAX the distro might still want the option to
> only allows for region-scoped "hotplug" rather than memory_block-scoped
> "online".

This was not an intent, but maybe?  I'm not sure what the larger
implications of this are - except that maybe poisoned regions of memory
might take out larger chunks of hotplug memory.

Other things may depend on memory block size in unexpected ways.

I think maybe lets tuck that away until after we get region-scoped
hotplug.  Maybe it would look like this


Step 1: Region-scoped hotplug that uses all the blocks

Step 2: memory hotplug callbacks that disallow any hotplugger (except
	emergency hotplug?) from acting on individual blocks

	We already want this for online_movable, just defer a bit and
	make the guarantee stronger.

Step 3: deprecate memory_block for something else?
	make memory_block variably sized with some base alignment?

~Gregory

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-13 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20260113093758epcas5p10cc9749a657b8e4d32db75b8b973b67d@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2026-01-12 16:35 ` [PATCH 0/6] CXL: Introduce memory controller abstraction and sysram controller Gregory Price
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 1/6] drivers/cxl: add cxl_memctrl_mode and region->memctrl Gregory Price
2026-01-12 20:59     ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 22:25       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 18:00       ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-13 20:07         ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 16:36         ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 21:10     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:34       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 17:18     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-14 18:25       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 18:36         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 2/6] cxl: add sysram_region memory controller Gregory Price
2026-01-12 20:00     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-12 22:43       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10     ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 22:47       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:55       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 22:34         ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 3/6] cxl/core/region: move pmem memctrl logic into memctrl/pmem_region Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 22:58       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13  9:12         ` Neeraj Kumar
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 4/6] cxl: add CONFIG_CXL_REGION_CTRL_AUTO_* build config options Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:10     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:05       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13  4:31         ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-13 13:55           ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 5/6] cxl: add CXL_REGION_SYSRAM_DEFAULT_* build options Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:11     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:07       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 16:35   ` [PATCH 6/6] cxl/sysram: disallow onlining in ZONE_NORMAL if state is movable only Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:11     ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-12 23:14       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-13 22:35         ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-13  9:37   ` [PATCH 0/6] CXL: Introduce memory controller abstraction and sysram controller Neeraj Kumar
2026-01-13 13:33     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-15 18:43   ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2026-01-15 18:56     ` Gregory Price

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