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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Changhuang Liang <changhuang.liang@starfivetech.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Emil Renner Berthing <kernel@esmil.dk>,
	Paul Walmsley <pjw@kernel.org>, Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
	"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	Lianfeng Ouyang <lianfeng.ouyang@starfivetech.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 11/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-per1-pinctrl
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 19:51:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260428-hardhat-both-1c9aa594a45a@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZQ4PR01MB120229BE0DAC2658164C066AF2372@ZQ4PR01MB1202.CHNPR01.prod.partner.outlook.cn>

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 01:28:05AM +0000, Changhuang Liang wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 04:13:21AM -0700, Changhuang Liang wrote:
> > > Add pinctrl bindings for StarFive JHB100 SoC Peripheral-1(per1)
> > > pinctrl controller.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Changhuang Liang <changhuang.liang@starfivetech.com>
> > > +        properties:
> > > +          pinmux:
> > > +            description: |
> > > +              The list of GPIOs and their function select.
> > > +              The PINMUX macros are used to configure the
> > > +              function selection.
> > 
> > Why is the pinmux property needed?
> > Can you use pins and function instead?
> > 
> > Looking at the defines that you have added, it appears that lots of defines for
> > the same peripheral share the same numerical values, suggesting that across
> > peripheral, all (or most) pins would share the same mux setting/"function
> > select", suggesting that pins/function would suffice.
> > 
> > I'd like to see some justification for pinmux being the right solution here, like
> > the "function select" used by one peripheral being significantly different for
> > many of its pins.
> 
> We think that implementing this in the pinmux will be relatively simple. It avoids 
> the need to create a large number of mapping relationships in the driver, which 
> simplifies our driver implementation. I'm not sure if you'll find this explanation 
> acceptable.

I don't really see how pins + functions would require lots of "mapping
relationships". Instead of having
+/* pinctrl_sys2 pad function selection */
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART_CTS				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART_RTS				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART_DCD				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART_DSR				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART_DTR				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART_RI				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART0_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART0_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART1_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART1_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART2_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART2_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART3_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART3_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART4_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART4_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART5_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART5_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART6_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART6_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART7_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART7_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART8_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART8_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART9_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART9_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART10_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART10_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART11_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART11_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART12_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART12_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART13_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART13_RX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART14_TX				1
+#define FUNC_SYS2_UART14_RX				1
you just define a function called "uart" and have a simple map of
that string to the number 1. You end up with a single array with the
relationships, not lots.

Frankly, pinmux just does not seem appropriate to me when it looks like
90%+ of the pin mappings for a peripheral share the same function value.
There appears only to be a rare number of cases where that doesn't
apply, but that could be handled by having them represented by a
different group/pins node with a different function.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-28 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-24 11:13 [PATCH v1 00/20] Add basic pinctrl drivers for JHB100 SoC Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 01/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-sys0-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-28 10:34   ` Linus Walleij
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 02/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 sys0 controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-28 10:29   ` Linus Walleij
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 03/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-sys0h-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 04/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 sys0h controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 05/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-sys1-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 06/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 sys1 controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 07/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-sys2-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-25 10:28   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 08/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 sys2 controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 09/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-per0-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 10/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 per0 controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 11/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-per1-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 16:56   ` Conor Dooley
2026-04-28  1:28     ` Changhuang Liang
2026-04-28 18:51       ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2026-04-28 11:08   ` Linus Walleij
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 12/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 per1 controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 13/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-per2-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 13:17   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 14/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 per2 controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 15/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-per2pok-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 16/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 per2pok controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 17/20] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add starfive,jhb100-per3-pinctrl Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 18/20] pinctrl: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 per3 controller driver Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 19/20] riscv: dts: starfive: Add StarFive JHB100 pin function definitions Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 17:00   ` Conor Dooley
2026-04-24 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 20/20] riscv: dts: starfive: jhb100: Add pinctrl nodes Changhuang Liang
2026-04-24 17:01   ` Conor Dooley
2026-04-28  1:53     ` Changhuang Liang
2026-04-28 10:11 ` [PATCH v1 00/20] Add basic pinctrl drivers for JHB100 SoC Linus Walleij
2026-04-29  0:53   ` Changhuang Liang

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