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From: Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir.zapolskiy@linaro.org>
To: Bryan O'Donoghue <bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org>,
	Atanas Filipov <atanas.filipov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Cc: loic.poulain@oss.qualcomm.com, mchehab@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	andersson@kernel.org, konradybcio@kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] Add Qualcomm JPEG V4L2 encoder for SM8250
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 16:57:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48c3ce6b-1e2a-457c-93b2-8fbc0912dc20@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8116c54e-4050-4e9d-b236-59d74846bd57@linaro.org>

On 7/6/26 16:37, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
> On 06/07/2026 14:02, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why? The common power domain and interconnects have already been
>>>> described as resources of the parent CAMSS device, there is no need
>>>> to duplicate descriptions in every child device tree node of CAMSS.
>>>
>>> CSID, IFE etc are not parents of the JPEG encoder.
>>>
>>> The idea is to make all of these peers, eventually. Not particular block
>>> owns the TITAN_TOP_GDSC - the entire CAMSS block is a collapsible block.
>>>
>>
>> The statement provides the same information as before, e.g. it's found
>> here:
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/fbc018f5-
>> c025-4747-85f2-53b45b0f0496@nxsw.ie/
>>
>>       There's no functional linkage between CAMSS/IFE and JPEG - they are
>>       peers within the CAMSS power-island.
>>
>> Thus "the CAMSS power-island" exists, and it got its hardware description
>> as the CAMSS top device tree node, and TITAN_TOP_GDSC power domain is
>> a natural resource of all devices on "CAMSS power-island",
> 
> Vlad honestly, TITAN_TOP_GDSC is provided to the CAMSS island - all of
> the nodes within it depend on that and it is _external_ to the block.

So? There is no tension with my point of view.

> There is a CSID MUX on some SOC other than that I'll restate it again,
> I'm not sure why you won't accept it.
> 
> There is no dependency between JPEG and IFE, one is _not_ subordinate to
> the other and trying to find ways to invalidate that statement runs
> counter to the facts.
> 
> CAMCC provides TITAN_TOP_GDSC external to the CAMSS block, that GDSC
> effectively _is_ the power island.
> 
> This debate is going nowhere. Check the downstream you don't need the
> docs titan_top_gdsc is provided by CAMCC.
> 

There is no debate, since my arguments are not debated so far... Why?

And at the same time you didn't provide any support to have N identical
spread hardware property descriptions instead of the single one.

What is a good enough reason to prefer complexity over simplicity?

-- 
Best wishes,
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-06 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-06  7:11 [PATCH v4 0/5] Add Qualcomm JPEG V4L2 encoder for SM8250 Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] media: qcom: camss: Populate CAMSS child devices via DT Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:23   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 12:09   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06 12:27     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:36       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06 12:38         ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:41   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] dt-bindings: media: qcom,sm8250-camss: allow JPEG encoder child node Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:24   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 10:07   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:11   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] dt-bindings: media: qcom: Add JPEG encoder binding Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:18   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 10:19   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:17   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8250: Add JPEG encoder node Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 12:18   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06 12:45   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] media: qcom: jpeg: Add Qualcomm JPEG V4L2 encoder Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  7:46   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 10:21   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:19   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06 13:11   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-06 17:13   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-07-06 10:12 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Add Qualcomm JPEG V4L2 encoder for SM8250 Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:00   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 12:11     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 13:02       ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 13:37         ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 13:57           ` Vladimir Zapolskiy [this message]
2026-07-06 14:12             ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 14:35               ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 14:49                 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 15:00                   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 12:24 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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