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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
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	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Disseldorp <ddiss@suse.de>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
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	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 19:32:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261013173240.GK4214@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <as4xMnT8a75pIw9v@gremlin>

On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 02:29:08PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 03:12:43PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 01:59:33PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> 
> > > Ignoring is the only workable long-term solution.
> >
> > How do you decide which patches to ignore ?
> 
> Anything that looks schloppy. ATM it's very easy to tell.
> 
> In future it will be newcomers who do anything but the most trivial work. Or
> they will at least be super-deprioritised.

As people tend to quote Linus in this mail thread, it's important to
recall what he (and others) said during the maintainer summit: the
kernel developers who code without using LLMs are not just tolerated, we
*want* them. We want them to learn and contribute, we *want* more
juniors who are genuinely participating.

It was very clear during the discussions that raising the barrier to
entry applied to LLM-generated contributions ("they have no excuse for
being anything but perfect" - not a litteral quote as I didn't record
the conversation, but the closest I can do based on my memory), not to
human coders.

> Yes there will be collateral damage, but it's that or no more open source (we're
> not the only ones going through this!)

Think how you will feel the day you will be treated as collateral
damage.

I find this mail thread it taking an almost cynical and violent turn.
Are people rejoicing at the prospect of actively discriminating against
sincere contributors, or am I misreading it ? The kernel community needs
more care.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-13 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-09  8:31 [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references Sasha Levin
2026-10-09  9:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-09 10:09   ` Sasha Levin
2026-10-09 10:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-09 10:24   ` Greg KH
2026-10-09 15:20   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-10-11  1:04     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-12 15:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 11:19     ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:38       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:50         ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:01           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:24         ` Ricardo B. Marlière (SUSE)
2026-10-13 12:49       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 17:16         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:31     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:59       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:04         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-13 13:07           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:12         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:29           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:37             ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:52             ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 14:54               ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:58               ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 17:12                 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 17:42                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 15:02               ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 16:58                 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 17:32             ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2026-10-13  4:24 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13  5:56   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-13  6:18     ` Greg KH
2026-10-13  8:25     ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 12:28       ` [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by reference Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:55         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:03           ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:10             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:20               ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:55                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 15:18           ` Mark Brown
2026-10-13 17:07             ` Laurent Pinchart

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