From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
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David Disseldorp <ddiss@suse.de>,
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Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
"Christian Brauner (Amutable)" <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 13:49:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <as4mYQGQFbjh4jVq@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1716819121.765615.1791890380179@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl>
On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 01:19:40PM +0200, Jori Koolstra wrote:
> > The only long-term solution to that is to hit mark read 1,000 times :)
> >
>
> There's a way to nuke drive-by authors and that is to require them to do
> some kind of "proof-of-effort." So you want to contribute to the kernel?
> Good, come to one of the OSS conferences, or LPC, or have some well-known
> maintainer vouch for you, or do the kernel mentorship program. The point
> is not that this cannot be gamed, but that the "gaming" in itself requires
> some kind of investment, like proof-of-work.
Yeah that is a neat idea :) like universities requiring people to be in
person for exams and shifting grading weight mostly to that.
Let's not encourage people to ask maintainers for backing though! Maybe
leave that bit unsaid.
>
> We may miss the savant that for whatever reason cannot show up to a conference,
> but Linux Foundation is already very supportive of funding people. And besides,
> Linus has already made it clear that we can expect of people to be able to grow
> into serious community members (which may include being able to effort time and/or
> money for LLM access.)
True. I did worry about people from countries/with lack of means where they
might struggle with this requirement, but LF help I guess addresses that.
>
> This would solve most slop immediately, and we will know about LLM found bugs
> anyway from cooperation with Anthropic and just the maintainers using LLMs.
In mm we're more and more dealing with bug 'fixes' by taking over the
patch, which is its own workload but will figure out how to do TODOs for
that in time.
--
Cheers, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-13 12:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-09 8:31 [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references Sasha Levin
2026-10-09 9:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-09 10:09 ` Sasha Levin
2026-10-09 10:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-09 10:24 ` Greg KH
2026-10-09 15:20 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-10-11 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-12 15:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 11:19 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:50 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:24 ` Ricardo B. Marlière (SUSE)
2026-10-13 12:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-10-13 12:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:04 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-13 13:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:37 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:52 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 14:54 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:58 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 15:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 4:24 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 5:56 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-13 6:18 ` Greg KH
2026-10-13 8:25 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 12:28 ` [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by reference Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:03 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:20 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 15:18 ` Mark Brown
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