From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 16:23:22 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261022192322.GD3746973@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <atphzdVThE9L5Kmv@kernel.org>
On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 10:19:41PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 03:51:33PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 07:24:57AM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > > Isn't the hypervisor what we are doing now? I mean multiple extension
> > > > originators share the same register and eventually the same log. Or do
> > > > you suggest to go even further having a "generic_registerX" exposed for
> > > > every hw implementation allowing the user to have full abstraction?
> > > > The "generic_registerX" would be always alias to something hw specific,
> > > > like RTMR2 for example of TDX.
> > >
> > > I definitely prefer the latter, as everything continues to work as is with
> > > minimal, if any, change.
> > >
> > > AI's wording:
> > > • The Virtual Mapping: The [attestation] subsystem exposes "Virtual RTMRs"
> > > (vRTMRs) internally to the kernel.
> > >
> > > • IMA's Dedicated Lane: The kernel config routes IMA to vRTMR_IMA.
> >
> > I was thinking something similar too
> >
> > I called this "PCR policy" in my previous posting, but in-kernel I
> > would expect something like IMA to request the "IMA PCR" from the
> > current attestation policy.
> >
> > This could be a locality 0 TPM PCR, a locality 2 PCR for a DRTM
> > launch, a TDX RTMR, etc. It keeps the layout in one place, and lets
> > the multiplexor steer it to different hardware.
>
> 5 Authenticated hibernate [1]
>
> This is on the table at least.
Yeah, any in-kernel use of PCRs has to fit into the overall system
policy. Like maybe you don't want to use PCR 5 if you have DRTM, or
you want to do hibernation using an alternative ROT from TPM..
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-22 19:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-15 14:50 [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 01/20] ctlv: Add the schema language and generator Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 22:31 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 02/20] ctlv: Add the UAPI wire format and family API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-20 23:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:54 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 03/20] ctlv: Add the root family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 12:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:30 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 16:25 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 04/20] Documentation: ctlv: Add userspace ABI Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:06 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 0:11 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22 9:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 05/20] ctlv: Prepare message input handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 0:43 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22 8:27 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 06/20] ctlv: Prepare blob descriptor validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 07/20] ctlv: Prepare schema validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 08/20] ctlv: Prepare message output handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 09/20] ctlv: Prepare VA blob handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 10/20] ctlv: Prepare event queue support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 1:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22 9:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 11/20] ctlv: Prepare runtime introspection Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 12/20] ctlv: Add device and operation dispatch Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 1:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22 9:05 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 18:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 13/20] Documentation: ctlv: Describe how to write a family Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 16:24 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 16:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 8:22 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 19:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 14/20] attestation: Add the base family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 15/20] attestation: Prepare provider and instance core Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 13:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 16/20] attestation: Prepare measurement register journal Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 17/20] attestation: Add CTLV operation handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 18/20] tdx-guest: Expose the native attestation service API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 19/20] attestation: Add the TDX family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 20/20] attestation: Add the TDX family implementation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-16 23:43 ` [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 18:16 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-17 19:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 21:14 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 20:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-18 23:53 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 12:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 16:10 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 22:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 8:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:12 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 19:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 10:54 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 11:24 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 18:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-22 19:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-10-22 19:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-22 19:40 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 12:26 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 13:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 14:07 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 19:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:37 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 19:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:52 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 20:43 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 9:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 13:45 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 15:22 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 16:11 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-20 16:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:23 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 13:18 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-21 13:50 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-21 13:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:31 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:48 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-21 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-19 12:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-19 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:49 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-20 13:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 10:30 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-22 15:38 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 16:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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