From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 01/20] ctlv: Add the schema language and generator
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:23:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ati8DWgQb23dV4Dv@FV6GYCPJ69> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261020233132.793b7e97@jic23-hlaptop>
Wed, Oct 21, 2026 at 12:31:32AM +0200, jic23@kernel.org wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 16:50:34 +0200
>Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>
>> From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
>>
>> Define the YAML schema and append-only family registry. Add ctlvgen to
>> validate specifications and emit kernel and UAPI outputs.
>>
>> Assisted-by: Cursor: GPT-5.6 Sol
>> Assisted-by: Cursor: Claude Opus 5.5
>> Signed-off-by: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
>
>Obviously you asked for broad structural review and this isn't that. I'm terrible
>at reading code for just the big picture but feel free to ignore the small stuff
>in this reply.
>
>My python being even worse than my yaml I'll only say that
>part looked plausible to me!
>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/ctlv/ctlv-schema.yaml b/Documentation/ctlv/ctlv-schema.yaml
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..38fd56e6627c
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/ctlv/ctlv-schema.yaml
>> @@ -0,0 +1,359 @@
>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: ((GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note) OR BSD-3-Clause)
>> +%YAML 1.2
>> +---
>> +$id: http://kernel.org/schemas/ctlv/ctlv-schema.yaml#
>> +$schema: https://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema
>> +
>> +# The syntax gate for a CTLV family specification: permitted keys, their shapes
>> +# and the closed sets of keywords. Anything needing more than one declaration at
>> +# a time is checked by tools/ctlv/ctlvgen/lib/semantics.py.
>> +
>> +$defs:
>> + name:
>> + description: Kebab-case identifier. A dot is reserved for selectors.
>> + type: string
>> + pattern: ^[a-z0-9]+(-[a-z0-9]+)*$
>> +
>> + family-name:
>> + description: Name carried by family discovery.
>> + allOf:
>> + - $ref: '#/$defs/name'
>> + - maxLength: 63
>> +
>> + selector:
>> + description: |
>
>Really trivial but nice to drop | where it doesn't make sense to
>force line break preservation like here.
Okay
>
>> + A named attr set, a whole attr group, or one exact attr as
>> + "group.attr". There are no tuple selectors and no cross-family
>> + qualification.
>> + type: string
>> + pattern: ^[a-z0-9]+(-[a-z0-9]+)*(\.[a-z0-9]+(-[a-z0-9]+)*)?$
>> +
>> + selectors:
>> + oneOf:
>> + - $ref: '#/$defs/selector'
>> + - type: array
>> + minItems: 1
>> + items:
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/selector'
>
>My yaml is terrible (and all learnt form reviewing DT bindings which are
>undoubtedly perfect :) but random LLM agrees with me that you can simplify
>this as it's a local definition. I think doing so makes life a little
>easier for reader by indicating it is thing defined a few lines up.
>
> $ref: 'selector'
>
>I don't care that much though.
Okay
>
>> +
>> + uint:
>> + type: integer
>> + minimum: 0
>> + maximum: 4294967295
>> +
>> + integer-bound:
>> + type: integer
>> + minimum: -9223372036854775808
>> + maximum: 18446744073709551615
>> +
>> + max-occurrences:
>> + description: |
>> + A finite positive count, or unlimited, which is reachable only from
>> + query replies.
>> + oneOf:
>> + - type: integer
>> + minimum: 1
>> + maximum: 4294967295
>> + - const: unlimited
>> +
>> + unit:
>> + description: CTLV-owned unit, matching enum ctlv_unit.
>> + enum: [ seconds, hertz, bytes, celsius ]
>
>These are used in here? I'm sure some are but guessing not
>all of them yet.
Nope. I just want these to be part of the initial schema as it is not
omitted by later family implementation by accident. Easy to pick up by
AI assistents I believe.
>
>
>> + attr:
>> + description: |
>> + One attr declaration. Exactly one primary form out of type, enum,
>> + flags, attrs and blob must be present. optional-attrs and recursive
>> + may only accompany attrs.
>
>Maybe worth the yaml gynastics needed to enforce this rather than
>just putting it in the description? An LLM fed me something when
>I sanity checked how bad it would be and it's only somewhat nasty...
>
>Bunch of:
> oneOf:
> - required: [ type ]
> not: { anyOf: [ { required: [ enum ] }, { required: [ flags ] }, { required: [ attrs ] }, { required: [ blob ] } ] }
>
>lines, though I thought there was a more compact way to do it.
Okay, will try.
>
>
>> + type: object
>> + required: [ name ]
>> + additionalProperties: false
>> + properties:
>> + name:
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/name'
>> + type:
>> + description: |
>> + Primitive payload. Integers are always 64-bit, and a bool is one
>> + byte holding zero or one.
>> + enum: [ uint, sint, bool, string, binary ]
>> + enum:
>> + description: Name of an enum definition; implies an unsigned payload.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/name'
>> + flags:
>> + description: Name of a flags definition; implies an unsigned payload.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/name'
>> + attrs:
>> + description: Nested payload, given as selectors.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/selectors'
>> + optional-attrs:
>> + description: Further nested payload whose placements are optional.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/selectors'
>> + recursive:
>> + description: |
>> + The nested payload is one attr set that may contain this attr
>> + again, describing a structure of any depth. Only a query reply can
>> + hold one, since such a nest has no maximum length.
>> + const: true
>> + blob:
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/blob'
>> + min:
>> + description: Inclusive minimum of an integer payload.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/integer-bound'
>> + max:
>> + description: Inclusive maximum of an integer payload.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/integer-bound'
>> + length:
>> + description: Exact payload length of a binary attr.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/uint'
>> + min-length:
>> + description: |
>> + Minimum payload length, excluding the terminator of a string.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/uint'
>> + max-length:
>> + description: |
>> + Maximum payload length, excluding the terminator of a string.
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/uint'
>> + unit:
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/unit'
>> + scale:
>> + description: Decimal exponent applied to the payload.
>> + type: integer
>> + minimum: -128
>> + maximum: 127
>> + max-occurrences:
>> + $ref: '#/$defs/max-occurrences'
>> +
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-21 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-15 14:50 [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 01/20] ctlv: Add the schema language and generator Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 22:31 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:23 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 02/20] ctlv: Add the UAPI wire format and family API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-20 23:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:54 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 03/20] ctlv: Add the root family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 12:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:30 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 04/20] Documentation: ctlv: Add userspace ABI Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:06 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 0:11 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 05/20] ctlv: Prepare message input handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 0:43 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 06/20] ctlv: Prepare blob descriptor validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 07/20] ctlv: Prepare schema validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 08/20] ctlv: Prepare message output handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 09/20] ctlv: Prepare VA blob handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 10/20] ctlv: Prepare event queue support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 1:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 11/20] ctlv: Prepare runtime introspection Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 12/20] ctlv: Add device and operation dispatch Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 1:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 13/20] Documentation: ctlv: Describe how to write a family Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 14/20] attestation: Add the base family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 15/20] attestation: Prepare provider and instance core Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 13:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 16/20] attestation: Prepare measurement register journal Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 17/20] attestation: Add CTLV operation handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 18/20] tdx-guest: Expose the native attestation service API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 19/20] attestation: Add the TDX family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 20/20] attestation: Add the TDX family implementation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-16 23:43 ` [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 18:16 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-17 19:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 21:14 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 20:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-18 23:53 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 12:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 16:10 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 22:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 8:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:12 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 9:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 13:45 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 15:22 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 16:11 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-20 16:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:23 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 13:18 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-21 13:50 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-21 13:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:31 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:48 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-21 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-19 12:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-19 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:49 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-20 13:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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