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From: Weijie Yuan <wy@wyuan.org>
To: 葉宸佑 <chenyou910331@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Alex Shi <alexs@kernel.org>,
	Dongliang Mu <dzm91@hust.edu.cn>,
	Yanteng Si <si.yanteng@linux.dev>,
	Hu Haowen <2023002089@link.tyut.edu.cn>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in submitting-patches.rst
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 15:00:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anLfiibgvpzMmRz_@wyuan.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKspUh+vAyHt+qQfZrNnkk0cKOks1nrRGtDapXp3Tzas4WT7=g@mail.gmail.com>


Ah, somehow I forgot to reply this email... Sorry


On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 08:36:26AM +0800, 葉宸佑 wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 07:06:59PM +0800, Weijie Yuan wrote:
> > For the translation of DCO, I have the same concern with Akira:
> >   https://lore.kernel.org/linux-doc/c8c36d99-9c0a-4767-8a4e-a5ad28093530@gmail.com/
> > Could it be better if adding a sentence like:
> >     "The translation is for reference only and has no legal
> >     effect. Please refer to the original text."
> 
> This is a fair concern, and I think you and Akira are right. The DCO is
> a legal statement that contributors certify with their Signed-off-by,
> so a reader who only reads the translation should be told explicitly
> that the English text is the authoritative one.
> 
> The existing disclaimer-zh_TW.rst included at the top of each file only
> warns that a translation may be out of date; it says nothing about
> legal effect. So a dedicated note next to the DCO section would add
> something the current disclaimer does not cover.
> 
> Two thoughts on how to do it:
> 
>   - This affects every locale that translates submitting-patches.rst,
>     not just zh_TW, so it would be better to have the same wording
>     everywhere rather than each locale inventing its own. If the docs
>     maintainers prefer, the note could even live in the English
>     original as guidance for translators.
>   - Since it is a policy question rather than a terminology fix, I
>     would rather not slip it into this series. I am happy to send it
>     as a separate patch once we agree on the wording, or to follow
>     whatever the zh_CN side decides so the two stay aligned.
> 
> The GNU page you linked is a good model; their point that only the
> original is legally valid, with translations provided to aid
> understanding, is exactly the framing we need. Let me know if you
> would like me to draft the wording.

Agreed. A separate patch (series) is obviously a proper solution. (So
yeah the same, I was just "thinking aloud", to prevent my thoughts from
being submerged in the sea of patches)

After this patch series is completed, let's deal with these issues.

> > As far as I know, it seems that there would be a final decision in LPC
> > 2026 soon (Oct.5-7), so let's mark this into our TODO notebook for later
> > potential changes.
> 
> Noted, I will keep the Assisted-by: section on the TODO list and
> revisit it after LPC. And you are right that translating
> coding-assistants.rst first would make more sense than churning the
> reference to it.

Yes and nice.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-05  7:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-21 21:55 [PATCH 00/16] docs/zh_TW: localize terminology and sync process/ documents Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 01/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in 7.AdvancedTopics.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-22  5:56   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-22  8:48   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-22 13:32     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 02/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in 1.Intro.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-22  7:42   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 03/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 04/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in license-rules.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-22 11:35   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 05/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in email-clients.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-22 11:35   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-24  6:48     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 06/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in programming-language.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-22 14:51   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 07/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in coding-style.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-22 14:48   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-24  6:38     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 08/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in stable-kernel-rules.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 09/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in 5.Posting.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-23  7:02   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-24  6:40     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-24 14:11       ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-25  0:46         ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 10/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in 2.Process.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-23  6:30   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-24  6:41     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-24 13:57       ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-26  8:56     ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 11/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in howto.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-23 10:53   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-24  6:41     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 12/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in embargoed-hardware-issues.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-23 12:43   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-24  6:42     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 13/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in submitting-patches.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-24 11:06   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-25  0:36     ` 葉宸佑
2026-08-05  7:00       ` Weijie Yuan [this message]
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 14/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in 8.Conclusion.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-24 12:08   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-25  0:43     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 15/16] docs/zh_TW: process: localize terminology in index.rst Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-24 12:27   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-25  0:44     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-21 21:55 ` [PATCH 16/16] docs/zh_TW: Add a glossary for Traditional Chinese translations Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-24 12:56   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-25  0:41     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-22 15:09 ` [PATCH 00/16] docs/zh_TW: localize terminology and sync process/ documents Weijie Yuan
2026-07-24  6:36   ` 葉宸佑

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