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From: Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>
To: "Nicolò Chieffo" <84yelo3@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>,
	Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com>,
	Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@ntfs-3g.org>,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: interface to ask is a file is hidden
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:57:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081010195746.GE19500@unused.rdu.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <641322f90810101300v3ab5fc15hb20fca0374ebe4b4@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:00:28PM +0200, Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 03:21:04PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> 
> > What files are determined as "hidden" is completely up to the application, and
> > not the filesystem.  Every linux filesystem is going to return all entries in a
> > directory when you do a readdir, and then it is up to the app to cull which
> > entries it doesn't want.  Having the fs/vfs arbitrarily decide which files are
> > "hidden" and shouldn't be returned via readdir is not the correct way to tackle
> > this problem, it should be decided via the application.
> 
> Ok, maybe I was not clear in my request
> 
> As if it's a way to get the size of a file, and this way is common to
> all filesystem (tell me if I'm wrong), we request a common way to ask
> if the file is hidden.
> So that the GIO code won't look like this
> 
> if (filesystem_is_ext3(fs))
>     hidden=ext3_get_hidden(file);
> else if (filesystem_is_fat16()fs)
>     hidden=fat16_get_hidden(file);
> else if (filesystem_is_fat32(fs))
>     hidden=fat32_get_hidden(file);
> else if (filesystem_is_ntfs(fs))
>     hidden=ntfs_get_hidden(file);
> else if (filesystem_is_new_filesystem_just_invented(fs)
>     /* oops! no way to get if a file is hidden because the maintainer
> didn't implement it */
>     hidden=FALSE;
>
> 
> If there is a common interface to do this we will gain 2 things
> 1) all filesystem must implement a way to get the hidden attribute
> 3) the application VFS must not know every filesystem type to support
> hidden files
> 2) much simpler code in application VFS, that might look like this:
>     hidden=get_filesyste_interface(fs)->get_hidden(file)

Oh ok I see what you are saying, sort of like chattr for ext3, only globally.
Doesn't sound like a terrible idea to me, but I will defer to the more
experienced people on this list.

Josef
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-10 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-10 19:22 interface to ask is a file is hidden Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 19:21 ` Josef Bacik
2008-10-10 19:35   ` Jeremy Allison
2008-10-10 20:00     ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 19:57       ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2008-10-10 20:11         ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 21:57       ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 22:01         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13  8:22           ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13  9:21             ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-13  9:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 10:37               ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-13 10:37               ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13 10:43                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 11:39                   ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13 20:44                     ` Jörn Engel
2008-10-13 20:50                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-14  7:20                       ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-10 22:18         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-10-10 22:21         ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 22:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 22:33             ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 22:36               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 22:58                 ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 23:12                   ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-10-11  0:10                 ` Bryan Henderson
2008-10-11  1:36               ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 22:57         ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-13  7:29         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-10-13 10:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 10:59           ` Alexander Larsson

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