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From: Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@ntfs-3g.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Nicolò Chieffo" <84yelo3@gmail.com>,
	"Jeremy Allison" <jra@samba.org>,
	"Alexander Larsson" <alexl@redhat.com>,
	"Josef Bacik" <jbacik@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: interface to ask is a file is hidden
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:18:05 +0300 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0810110103370.14752@dhcppc2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081010215722.GG8645@mit.edu>

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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:00:28PM +0200, Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 03:21:04PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > 
> > > What files are determined as "hidden" is completely up to the application, and
> > > not the filesystem.  Every linux filesystem is going to return all entries in a
> > > directory when you do a readdir, and then it is up to the app to cull which
> > > entries it doesn't want.  Having the fs/vfs arbitrarily decide which files are
> > > "hidden" and shouldn't be returned via readdir is not the correct way to tackle
> > > this problem, it should be decided via the application.
> > 
> > Ok, maybe I was not clear in my request
> > 
> > As if it's a way to get the size of a file, and this way is common to
> > all filesystem (tell me if I'm wrong), we request a common way to ask
> > if the file is hidden.
> 
> You realie that except for filesystems that are legacy compatible with
> Microsoft, the concept of "hidden file" simply doesn't exist?  So when
> you say:

I think it's irrelevant what the [extended] attribute is. 

The real question is how to handle (and standardise) them efficiently and 
cleanly. Files can have quite a lot of properties (extended attributes), 
there are more and more requests for them every day.

New, efficient, extended getdents based on a provided attribute interest 
list?

Regards, 
	   Szaka

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-10 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-10 19:22 interface to ask is a file is hidden Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 19:21 ` Josef Bacik
2008-10-10 19:35   ` Jeremy Allison
2008-10-10 20:00     ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 19:57       ` Josef Bacik
2008-10-10 20:11         ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 21:57       ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 22:01         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13  8:22           ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13  9:21             ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-13  9:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 10:37               ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-13 10:37               ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13 10:43                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 11:39                   ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13 20:44                     ` Jörn Engel
2008-10-13 20:50                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-14  7:20                       ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-10 22:18         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits [this message]
2008-10-10 22:21         ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 22:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 22:33             ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 22:36               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 22:58                 ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 23:12                   ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-10-11  0:10                 ` Bryan Henderson
2008-10-11  1:36               ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 22:57         ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-13  7:29         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-10-13 10:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 10:59           ` Alexander Larsson

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