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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/21] procfs: kill ->proc_dops
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:56:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250225235629.GC2023217@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <174052622191.102979.9523419116370013917@noble.neil.brown.name>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 10:30:21AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Mon 24-02-25 21:20:31, Al Viro wrote:
> > > It has two possible values - one for "forced lookup" entries, another
> > > for the normal ones.  We'd be better off with that as an explicit
> > > flag anyway and in addition to that it opens some fun possibilities
> > > with ->d_op and ->d_flags handling.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
> > 
> > FWIW I went through the patches and I like them. They look mostly
> > straightforward enough to me and as good simplifications.
> > 
> 
> Ditto.  Nice clean-up
> It might be good to document s_d_flags and particularly the value of
> setting DCACHE_DONTCACHE.  That flag is documented in the list of
> DCACHE_ flags, but making the connection that it can usefully be put in
> s_d_flags might be a step to far for many.

Probably...  The thing is, I'm resurrecting the DCACHE_PERSISTENT
patchset (aka tree-in-dcache stuff) and that will have non-trivial
interplay there.  But you are right - it's probably worth documenting
that thing in this series.

Re documentation - I'll be posting bits and pieces of dcache
docs/audit/proofs of correctness over the next few weeks; at some
point we'll need to collect that into a single text, but at the
moment what I've got is too disjoint for that.  OTOH, we could
start a WIP variant in D/f/<something> and have it augmented as
we go...  Not sure.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-25 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-24  1:06 [RFC] dentry->d_flags locking Al Viro
2025-02-24  1:38 ` Al Viro
2025-02-24 10:35   ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 14:14     ` Al Viro
2025-02-24 21:20       ` [PATCH 01/21] procfs: kill ->proc_dops Al Viro
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 02/21] new helper: d_splice_alias_ops() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:28           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 03/21] switch procfs from d_set_d_op() to d_splice_alias_ops() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:29           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 04/21] fuse: no need for special dentry_operations for root dentry Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:29           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-27 14:33           ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 05/21] new helper: set_default_d_op() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:30           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 06/21] split d_flags calculation out of d_set_d_op() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:31           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 07/21] set_default_d_op(): calculate the matching value for ->d_flags Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:33           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 08/21] simple_lookup(): just set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:34           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 09/21] make d_set_d_op() static Al Viro
2025-02-25 23:09           ` NeilBrown
2025-02-26  8:35           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 10/21] d_alloc_parallel(): set DCACHE_PAR_LOOKUP earlier Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:36           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 11/21] nsfs, pidfs: drop the pointless ->d_delete() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:37           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 12/21] shmem: no dentry retention past the refcount reaching zero Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:38           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 13/21] devpts, sunrpc: don't bother with ->d_delete or ->d_op, for that matter Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:38           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 14/21] hostfs: don't bother with ->d_op Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:38           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 15/21] kill simple_dentry_operations Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:39           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 16/21] ramfs, hugetlbfs, mqueue: set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-02-25 23:25           ` NeilBrown
2025-02-25 23:36             ` Al Viro
2025-02-25 23:40               ` NeilBrown
2025-02-26  8:39           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 17/21] 9p: don't bother with always_delete_dentry Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 18/21] efivarfs: use DCACHE_DONTCACHE instead of always_delete_dentry() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 19/21] debugfs: use DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 20/21] configfs: " Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 21/21] afs dynroot: " Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:41           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-25 15:55         ` [PATCH 01/21] procfs: kill ->proc_dops Jan Kara
2025-02-25 23:30           ` NeilBrown
2025-02-25 23:56             ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-02-25 22:51         ` NeilBrown
2025-02-26  0:03           ` Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:25         ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-26  8:41       ` [RFC] dentry->d_flags locking Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 11:45 ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  7:50   ` [RFC][PATCHES v2] " Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54     ` [PATCH v2 01/21] d_set_mounted(): we don't need to bump seqcount component of rename_lock Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 02/21] procfs: kill ->proc_dops Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 03/21] new helper: d_splice_alias_ops() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 04/21] switch procfs from d_set_d_op() to d_splice_alias_ops() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 05/21] fuse: no need for special dentry_operations for root dentry Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 06/21] new helper: set_default_d_op() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 07/21] split d_flags calculation out of d_set_d_op() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 08/21] correct the set of flags forbidden at d_set_d_op() time Al Viro
2025-06-11  9:49         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 09/21] set_default_d_op(): calculate the matching value for ->d_flags Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 10/21] simple_lookup(): just set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-06-11  9:50         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 11/21] make d_set_d_op() static Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 12/21] d_alloc_parallel(): set DCACHE_PAR_LOOKUP earlier Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 13/21] shmem: no dentry retention past the refcount reaching zero Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 14/21] devpts, sunrpc, hostfs: don't bother with ->d_op Al Viro
2025-06-11  9:50         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 15/21] kill simple_dentry_operations Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 16/21] ramfs, hugetlbfs, mqueue: set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 17/21] 9p: don't bother with always_delete_dentry Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 18/21] efivarfs: use DCACHE_DONTCACHE instead of always_delete_dentry() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 19/21] debugfs: use DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 20/21] configfs: " Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 21/21] tracefs: set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-06-11  9:51         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  9:47     ` [RFC][PATCHES v2] dentry->d_flags locking Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 14:07 ` [RFC] " Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-25 17:56   ` Al Viro

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