From: Patrick Ouellette <pat@flying-gecko.net>
To: Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org>
Cc: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org, debian-hams@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: AX25 and related software's future in Debian
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 22:10:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120504021030.GA4017@flying-gecko.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA33509.5070006@radagast.org>
Dave,
I appreciate the response. Having been with Debian for somewhere
around 15 years I'm no stranger to the "discussions" that erupt
over various issues.
I usually prefer to not comment on most of them. Unfortunately I
am in the center of this one.
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 06:46:49PM -0700, Dave Platt wrote:
>
> I'm enough of a "tweaker" that I'd much prefer an actively-
> maintained, distribution-agnostic "master kit" that I can
> build and install myself, to an "easy install" package that's
> not used by enough people to justify the effort needed to track
> a changing distribution rule-set and fight battles such as the
> one that seems to have erupted here. My 8mpression is that the
> Debian AX.25 apps have lagged significantly behind what's been
> available "from source", perhaps due in part to this same
> "lack of adequate use" problem, and that it's been preferable to
> build from sources anyhow.
Actually the AX25 versions in Debian only lagged "far" behind the last
release (which has problems) and cvs (a situation I was trying to remedy).
Granted the last release was about 2 years ago (the -rc2 packages), but in
Debian release cycle time that is barely a single stable release.
The upstream change logs most recent entries are dated 2002,2003,2009,2012.
(Those are for libax25)
>
> AX.25 on Linux has (I think) always been enough of an "oddball"
> niche interest that I suspect most users of it were "self-
> installers" from the beginning, rather than being dependent on
> support from their distribution. If I recall correctly, many
> of the standard Debian kernels have not supported AX.25 by
> default, and installing a custom kernel has been close to a
> "must". Anybody who can do this, can probably manage to build
> and install the libraries and apps themselves from the original
> source kits.
Debian kernels have pretty much always had the ax25 support either
compiled in or as modules. That was one of the legacies from the early
efforts to make Debian a ham friendly distro (way back in 1997).
73,
Pat NE4PO
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-04 1:32 AX25 and related software's future in Debian Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 1:46 ` Dave Platt
2012-05-04 2:10 ` Patrick Ouellette [this message]
2012-05-04 1:53 ` Kamal Mostafa
2012-05-04 2:03 ` Charles Suprin
2012-05-04 2:17 ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 2:20 ` Alejandro Santos
2012-05-04 5:20 ` Kim, VK5FJ
2012-05-04 14:34 ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 14:06 ` Dan Smith
2012-05-04 15:14 ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 15:35 ` Dan Smith
2012-05-04 16:28 ` Steve Kostecke
2012-05-04 16:57 ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 17:50 ` Bill Vodall
2012-05-04 18:06 ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 18:32 ` Dan Smith
2012-05-04 18:49 ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 19:01 ` Dan Smith
2012-05-04 19:31 ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 22:52 ` Damien Gardner Jnr
[not found] ` <CAPSBm51zYFpfPa0Rqvjemv4KGh-NQfFmFTcW07B8KzpTK_E8bw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-05-05 3:00 ` Kris Kirby
2012-05-05 13:33 ` Thomas Osterried
2012-05-23 18:15 ` Wesley J. Landaker
2012-05-23 20:38 ` Nate Bargmann
2012-05-23 22:48 ` Damien Gardner Jnr
2012-05-24 12:18 ` C.J. Adams-Collier
2012-05-24 12:33 ` IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR
2012-05-24 23:05 ` Marius Petrescu
2012-05-24 23:29 ` IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR
2012-05-25 0:02 ` Marius Petrescu
2012-05-25 0:04 ` Marius Petrescu
2012-05-25 0:56 ` Bob Nielsen
2012-05-25 1:46 ` Nate Bargmann
[not found] <S1754044Ab2EQTsl/20120517194841Z+66@vger.kernel.org>
2012-05-17 20:03 ` Charles Boling (AD7UF)
2012-05-17 20:25 ` John Goerzen
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