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From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net>
To: Patrick Ouellette <pat@flying-gecko.net>
Cc: Dan Smith <dsmith@danplanet.com>,
	linux-hams@vger.kernel.org, debian-hams@lists.debian.org,
	ralf@linux-mips.org, ax25@x-berg.in-berlin.de
Subject: Re: AX25 and related software's future in Debian
Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 08:52:17 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA45DA1.8090602@rendrag.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120504151424.GC24655@flying-gecko.net>

On 5/05/2012 1:14 AM, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> Dan,
>
> Playing Devil's advocate - the argument has been put forth in the
> "other discussion" that according to popcon (the Debian popularity
> contest), node has 81 installs, and 17 reporting as "active" while the
> nodejs package has 720 installs with 163 reporting as "active."  So their
> conclusion is the node package is only used by a small community.
>
Does anyone actually USE popcon though?  I dunno about you, but I have 
~400 debian boxes in use around my clients, and NONE are participating 
in popularity contest.. - Having the server info + installed packages 
sent off to some off-site location is a security risk, and a stumbling 
block on the way to PCI Compliance.  That and it just seems 
microsoft-style creepy!

I don't think you can honestly expect to use popcon as a valid indicator 
to the ax25 packages' install base.. - Much like you couldn't expect it 
to be valid for snort, acidbase, or other tools used in a secure 
environment?   (Which a ham radio node needs to be, to maintain the 
separation of ham-tcpip and public-tcpip networks).

Regards,

Damien

-- 
Damien Gardner Jnr
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-04 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-04  1:32 AX25 and related software's future in Debian Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04  1:46 ` Dave Platt
2012-05-04  2:10   ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04  1:53 ` Kamal Mostafa
2012-05-04  2:03 ` Charles Suprin
2012-05-04  2:17   ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04  2:20 ` Alejandro Santos
2012-05-04  5:20   ` Kim, VK5FJ
2012-05-04 14:34     ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 14:06 ` Dan Smith
2012-05-04 15:14   ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 15:35     ` Dan Smith
2012-05-04 16:28     ` Steve Kostecke
2012-05-04 16:57       ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 17:50         ` Bill Vodall
2012-05-04 18:06           ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 18:32             ` Dan Smith
2012-05-04 18:49               ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 19:01                 ` Dan Smith
2012-05-04 19:31                   ` Patrick Ouellette
2012-05-04 22:52     ` Damien Gardner Jnr [this message]
     [not found] ` <CAPSBm51zYFpfPa0Rqvjemv4KGh-NQfFmFTcW07B8KzpTK_E8bw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-05-05  3:00   ` Kris Kirby
2012-05-05 13:33 ` Thomas Osterried
2012-05-23 18:15 ` Wesley J. Landaker
2012-05-23 20:38   ` Nate Bargmann
2012-05-23 22:48   ` Damien Gardner Jnr
2012-05-24 12:18   ` C.J. Adams-Collier
2012-05-24 12:33     ` IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR
2012-05-24 23:05       ` Marius Petrescu
2012-05-24 23:29         ` IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR
2012-05-25  0:02           ` Marius Petrescu
2012-05-25  0:04             ` Marius Petrescu
2012-05-25  0:56               ` Bob Nielsen
2012-05-25  1:46                 ` Nate Bargmann
     [not found] <S1754044Ab2EQTsl/20120517194841Z+66@vger.kernel.org>
2012-05-17 20:03 ` Charles Boling (AD7UF)
2012-05-17 20:25   ` John Goerzen

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